Return-Path: Received: from eatspam.slcc.edu ([144.35.15.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4562373 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:05:12 +0100 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1323807071-0437c6128335fb30001-edO5QZ Received: from vCAS1.slcc.int (vcas1.slcc.int [10.1.11.52]) by eatspam.slcc.edu with ESMTP id N1YqwCeasfB4uC6r for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:11:11 -0700 (MST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: John.Morgan@slcc.edu Received: from EXCH.slcc.int ([127.0.0.1]) by vCAS1.slcc.int ([fe80::5023:faf7:26da:d5bf%11]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:11:11 -0700 From: John Morgan To: After Effects Mail List Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:11:10 -0700 Subject: RE: [AE] RAID vs non-RAID Thread-Topic: [AE] RAID vs non-RAID X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [AE] RAID vs non-RAID Thread-Index: Acy5xr8EVg5K0J7+SQSDYIev/av9VgAC+HOg Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_EAE675A223415848A14AA69EBCDE9D0A5910ECC670EXCHslccint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: vcas1.slcc.int[10.1.11.52] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1323807071 X-Barracuda-URL: http://eatspam.slcc.edu:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at slcc.edu X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.82984 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message --_000_EAE675A223415848A14AA69EBCDE9D0A5910ECC670EXCHslccint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a drive fail recently in a 16-drive Rorke Data Galaxy HDX2 system con= figured as RAID 5. Had a cold swap on hand....popped it in and following a = couple of hours of rebuild time, was back up and running full speed. The sy= stem works during rebuild but performance slows slightly. If this had been a RAID 0 striped set, all data would have been lost. I wo= uld NEVER trust "lucky." I have an investment of 6 years of P2 and XDCAM fo= otage, Ae and Pr projects....all still live and editable.....that I intend = to keep pushing forward from system to system. Also have LTO/Ultrium tape b= ackup system. John From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Mel Matsuoka Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:41 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] RAID vs non-RAID On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:58 AM, mpo@michaeloreilly.com wrote: I'd rather manually manage my redundancy (and have successfully for years now) I think you'll probably change your tune regarding this when your work driv= e fails in the middle of a project, before you have a chance to invoke your= manual process for redundancy :) I did this for years, and it "worked" for me only because I was lucky. Your= drives WILL fail when you least expect it, regardless of how "successful" = you've been with manual redundancy procedures in the past. RAID5 setups are= so cheap now that it makes no sense to NOT be using a RAID setup these day= s. Why bother with manual processes, when RAID5 will do it for you automati= cally, all the time, and for a very reasonable cost? -- Mel Matsuoka Finishing Editor/Director of Awesomeology Montaj9 - Honolulu, HI http://montaj9.com http://twitter.com/DoctorPebkac This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the addr= essee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential or ot= herwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this= e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any una= uthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message = is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please no= tify the sender by return e-mail and delete this e-mail and any attachments= from your system.= --_000_EAE675A223415848A14AA69EBCDE9D0A5910ECC670EXCHslccint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I had a d= rive fail recently in a 16-drive Rorke Data Galaxy HDX2 system configured a= s RAID 5. Had a cold swap on hand….popped it in and following a coupl= e of hours of rebuild time, was back up and running full speed. The system = works during rebuild but performance slows slightly.

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If this had been a RAID 0 striped set, all data would have been los= t.  I would NEVER trust “lucky.” I have an investment of 6= years of P2 and XDCAM footage, Ae and Pr projects….all still live an= d editable…..that I intend to keep pushing forward from system to sys= tem. Also have LTO/Ultrium tape backup system.

 

John

 

From: After Effects Mail List [ma= ilto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Mel Matsuoka
Sent:<= /b> Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:41 AM
To: After Effects Mail Li= st
Subject: Re: [AE] RAID vs non-RAID

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On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:58 AM, = mpo@michaeloreilly.com wrote:=



I'd rather
manually manage my redundancy (and have successfully fo= r years now)

 

I think you'll probably = change your tune regarding this when your work drive fails in the middle of= a project, before you have a chance to invoke your manual process for redu= ndancy :) 

 

I did this for years, and it "= worked" for me only because I was lucky. Your drives WILL fail when yo= u least expect it, regardless of how "successful" you've been wit= h manual redundancy procedures in the past. RAID5 setups are so cheap now t= hat it makes no sense to NOT be using a RAID setup these days. Why bother w= ith manual processes, when RAID5 will do it for you automatically, all the = time, and for a very reasonable cost?

 

-- 

Mel Matsuoka
Finishing Editor/Director of Awesom= eology

Montaj9 - Honolulu, HI

 

 


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