Return-Path: Received: from smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.14] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4569233 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:21:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 15517 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2011 19:28:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.206.254.56) by smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.14) with ESMTP; 20 Dec 2011 19:28:10 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: After Effects After Effects Mail List Message-Id: <2D112CB1-2AFC-4A79-96D3-0D4ECBD0116A@influxx.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-357221234 From: adam mercado Subject: [OT] H264 Gamma Shift Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:28:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-4-357221234 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I'm having a hell of a time trying to get a render off to my client =20 that resembles to color shown in AE. Workflow is this: PSDs imported and animated to 16bit comps (the artwork is a concrete =20 texture with a black vignette over, lots of greys, blacks blending =20 into each other) Rendered to 16bit PhotoJPEG .MOVs (the masters look fine, no gamma =20 shift at this stage but at 750MB too large to upload to client) Encoded in Episode to H264 (blacks are crushed, all detail is lost, =20 gamma is generally shifted darker) Encoded in QuickTime to H264 (gamma is shifted lighter and reds are =20 shifted towards blue) I've tried playing with various options and settings in Episode, but =20 any gamma compensated reverse shift I apply brightens the highlights =20 but the blacks are still crushed. Playing with the QT export filters =20 are really hit or miss with little effect. Anyone come across this before and found a workaround? Or a better =20 encoder. I had an old version of compressor at one time but removed =20 it as it was so unstable and buggy and required a reinstall every two =20= weeks. At this stage I've resorted to trying to introduce the reverse gamma =20 shift as an adjustment layer in AE prior to final render to =20 compensate for the shift in Episode. So far I have yet to find the =20 sweet spot that solves the problem many many thanks Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx --Apple-Mail-4-357221234 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm having a hell of a time trying to get a render off to my client that = resembles to color shown in AE. Workflow is = this:

PSDs imported and animated to 16bit comps (the = artwork is a concrete texture with a black vignette over, lots of greys, = blacks blending into each other)
Rendered to 16bit PhotoJPEG = .MOVs (the masters look fine, no gamma shift at this stage but at 750MB = too large to upload to client)
Encoded in Episode to H264 = (blacks are crushed, all detail is lost, gamma is generally shifted = darker)
Encoded in QuickTime to H264 (gamma is shifted lighter = and reds are shifted towards blue)

I've tried = playing with various options and settings in Episode, but any gamma = compensated reverse shift I apply brightens the highlights but the = blacks are still crushed. Playing with the QT export filters are really = hit or miss with little effect.

Anyone come = across this before and found a workaround? Or a better encoder. I had an = old version of compressor at one time but removed it as it was so = unstable and buggy and required a reinstall every two = weeks.

At this stage I've resorted to trying to = introduce the reverse gamma shift as an adjustment layer in AE prior to = final render to compensate for the shift in Episode. So far I  have = yet to find the sweet spot that solves the = problem

many many thanks

Adam = Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton, = CA

Moving = Images. For Business
714=B0928=B09896




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