Return-Path: Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4569534 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:43:22 +0100 Received: by qabg40 with SMTP id g40so1873378qab.7 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:49:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=/FX12Z8yTsQwfdKdGKpjUULHZmmkclvKN7JbVo9++y4=; b=XXHXjYP99TysTt7iDjmUahpMx1yhFl/8uKAhcPaQ1jPYKg91ty7ZvJ8MQfjFpbG52D snMrdvSqx02z+6O1/ziZXf+YBxwXMgg5s89avSFal/6S+S6ZVKojalARmWGSkNdlGEhs wqDwiiOBr/djK7/zrPPFvCrmcYkUhpDOC+1lQ= Received: by 10.224.197.7 with SMTP id ei7mr6285460qab.84.1324439372655; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:49:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.6] ([74.72.163.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h9sm7813032qac.13.2011.12.20.19.49.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:49:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud licensing model References: From: Rendernyc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:41:58 -0500 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) If its a VPN style floating license that would be very bad.=20 On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > Honestly. "Cloud" licensing seems like it's the way to go for me. I can h= ardly ever make a point to spend the full amount for master collection. Even= though I know most of the programs I don't do enough work in some of them t= o justify buying them. As a full-time freelancer, some of my projects could= easily pay for it, but I'd rather pay a low $49 a month, knowing if busines= s gets really slow, I didn't blow a huge chunk of money on something that is= n't feeding my family. And if I'm about to be living in the gutter, At least= I will feel I haven't overspent in my software for the year.=20 >=20 > I can see this model becoming popular with amateurs and hobbyists who "obt= ain" the software as well, because they "aren't using it to make money". $50= per month doesn't seem nearly as costly as perpetual license fees (up to $2= ,600) to someone who wants to dabble or learn more.=20 >=20 > Even so. After 1 year I'll have only paid around $600. versus $2,600 for m= aster collection full price. In 4 years I still wouldn't have paid that pric= e, plus I'll have upgraded to the next version by then in the "cloud" model.= That doesn't seem to bad, to always be up to date on all adobe software.=20= >=20 > I'm not too concerned about the "cloud" model, as they aren't really using= that term correctly. The programs wont run remotely, or in a browser. This i= s basically just a subscription with other web-based services in it. Adobe's= subscriptions don't require an always on connection. Just an update per mon= th to make sure you've paid your monthly fee.=20 >=20 > Unless I'm completely wrong about how this whole thing will work.=20 >=20 > ////Greg Balint > ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > delRAZOR.com/ >=20 > On Dec 20, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Jim Lang wrote: >=20 >> Christ. I had a feeling we were heading in this direction. >> CS3 will probably be my last update. I'll quit altogether before >> participating in this bullshit.; >>=20 >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>> I have a cs4 prod premium license an AE cs5. >>> Was planning o upgrading the suite to cs6 this time around. I dont work f= rom >>> home very much anymore so there wasn't any major need. There's no chance= >>> I'll be upgrading twice so not sure what I'm gonna do >>>=20 >>> On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Harriet Thompson >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> What are people choosing to do about the new Adobe Creative Cloud licens= ing >>> model versus the old system of perpetual licenses? I own a bunch of >>> individual CS3 products, and I was planning to upgrade to CS6 Production= >>> Premium when it comes out. However, I have read an announcement that in >>> order to qualify for CS6 upgrade pricing, users must be on CS5 or 5.5, a= nd >>> that there is a 20% off offer through to December 31. So, I was about to= >>> upgrade to CS5.5 Production Premium, when I also read that there will be= a >>> new membership-based licensing model called the Adobe Creative Cloud, >>> costing $49.99 per month for individuals, but you can stick with the old= >>> system of perpetual licenses if you prefer. If I don=E2=80=99t buy the C= S5.5 >>> upgrade, can I join the Creative Cloud when it launches? What are other >>> users planning to do =E2=80=93 Creative Cloud or perpetual license? >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Harriet >>> harriet@synthetic.co.nz >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to