Return-Path: Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com ([17.148.16.94] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4570228 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:54:33 +0100 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Received: from [192.168.1.77] ([99.152.153.185]) by asmtp019.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPA id <0LWK00HM0NP8FL80@asmtp019.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:00:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-12-21_08:2011-12-21,2011-12-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1112210226 Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud licensing model From: Jim Curtis In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:00:44 -0600 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Good points. I have a client with a heinous firewall. I guess I'd need = my own satellite transponder. I've been working with enough hi-tech companies to know that the cloud = is inevitable, and at some point, people who insist on hard drives are = going to be on a dystopian par with Mad Max and lawless adventurers. At = some point, local installs of software won't be an option. Your = computer won't even compute... it will simply be an appliance to access = one on the internet. You'll be able to rent all the CPU cycles, RAM and = storage you'll ever need a la carte. This is probably Adobe dipping = their toes in. And I'm glad they're not deep-sixing the old way just = yet. I'm happy to watch from the sidelines for a while, and let the = edge bleeders have at it. On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Chris Bator wrote: > I see this as a price increase for me for sure, but I have 2 real = problems with the subscriptions as a freelancer=85. >=20 > 1. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I am quite nearly sure that I will be = somewhere without internet access and on a deadline and my software will = want to check-in online and will stop me from working until I do=85 I = will need some sort of guarantee that this will not happen. ever. >=20 > 2. I need to keep multiple versions around for clients that are stuck = on older versions=85 I have not seen how will that work. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -chris >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > -- > chris bator > cbator@mac.com=09 > http://www.ui.somebug.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbator > interactive and motion design >=20 > On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:28 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >=20 >> maybe my math is off but $400 every 18 months seem less than $50 = every month, and are they going to bill you or automatically charge you = credit card - so some finance charges may apply (if you don't pay it off = each month) - I for one don't need another month bill/subscription. I = hate the every version requirement - I was kind of a every other rev - = mostly because I work with people who stay on old versions because they = are comfortable - I had a artist friend that stayed on 6.5 well into 8. >>=20 >> timt >>=20 >> From: "Gary Berendsen" >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:07:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud = licensing model >>=20 >> I like the 50 per month as well, especially if that becomes a global = price. >> 32 euro at the moment's fine. Easy to write off as cost and no = depreciation on the software. >> I like. >> So long not there is not a permanent internet connection necessary as = I do work on stuff at places without connections sometimes. >>=20 >> Gary Berendsen - VFX Generalist >> http://garyberendsen.com >=20