Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4570240 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:59:10 +0100 Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ePqRfQV1 c=1 sm=0 a=nSwYzG3nL+YYqzdGadiYmA==:17 a=_wW1bJrvjPgA:10 a=6QVzGSgJaQ4A:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=n_cyjgRKAAAA:8 a=0NtdC1r0AAAA:8 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=b0BlaStgAAAA:8 a=jU4qhlNgAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Afdv4LJxAAAA:8 a=6YGX6JoooJIDznd5rawA:9 a=qVLtxJ8WdowXb_PzphgA:7 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Hiit177yz3gA:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9XodwBdzL2sA:10 a=O-eeH4hFjEoKpMR_:21 a=jqFl9Oyyad-DHA3i:21 a=nSwYzG3nL+YYqzdGadiYmA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.73.238.28 Received: from [24.73.238.28] ([24.73.238.28:6372] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 48/E9-17351-21A42FE4; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:05:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud licensing model From: Dann Stubbs In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:05:22 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9307B48E-9F8A-4F32-AEF5-2757AAE16906@darkskydigital.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) for those who remember the computer world before the desktop revolution = - welcome to the past. ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > Good points. I have a client with a heinous firewall. I guess I'd = need my own satellite transponder. >=20 > I've been working with enough hi-tech companies to know that the cloud = is inevitable, and at some point, people who insist on hard drives are = going to be on a dystopian par with Mad Max and lawless adventurers. At = some point, local installs of software won't be an option. Your = computer won't even compute... it will simply be an appliance to access = one on the internet. You'll be able to rent all the CPU cycles, RAM and = storage you'll ever need a la carte. This is probably Adobe dipping = their toes in. And I'm glad they're not deep-sixing the old way just = yet. I'm happy to watch from the sidelines for a while, and let the = edge bleeders have at it. >=20 >=20 > On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Chris Bator wrote: >=20 >> I see this as a price increase for me for sure, but I have 2 real = problems with the subscriptions as a freelancer=85. >>=20 >> 1. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I am quite nearly sure that I will be = somewhere without internet access and on a deadline and my software will = want to check-in online and will stop me from working until I do=85 I = will need some sort of guarantee that this will not happen. ever. >>=20 >> 2. I need to keep multiple versions around for clients that are stuck = on older versions=85 I have not seen how will that work. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> chris bator >> cbator@mac.com=09 >> http://www.ui.somebug.com >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbator >> interactive and motion design >>=20 >> On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:28 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >>=20 >>> maybe my math is off but $400 every 18 months seem less than $50 = every month, and are they going to bill you or automatically charge you = credit card - so some finance charges may apply (if you don't pay it off = each month) - I for one don't need another month bill/subscription. I = hate the every version requirement - I was kind of a every other rev - = mostly because I work with people who stay on old versions because they = are comfortable - I had a artist friend that stayed on 6.5 well into 8. >>>=20 >>> timt >>>=20 >>> From: "Gary Berendsen" >>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:07:09 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud = licensing model >>>=20 >>> I like the 50 per month as well, especially if that becomes a global = price. >>> 32 euro at the moment's fine. Easy to write off as cost and no = depreciation on the software. >>> I like. >>> So long not there is not a permanent internet connection necessary = as I do work on stuff at places without connections sometimes. >>>=20 >>> Gary Berendsen - VFX Generalist >>> http://garyberendsen.com >>=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20