Return-Path: Received: from b.mail.sonic.net ([64.142.19.5] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4570403 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 02:27:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.6.43] (64-142-103-27.dsl.static.sonic.net [64.142.103.27]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id pBM1XAiZ010098 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:33:11 -0800 Message-Id: <779332CE-4B73-4146-A706-D05326550456@rxpro.com> From: Michael Hazarian To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud licensing model Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:33:10 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) My quick pass through the new licensing (a couple weeks ago) might be =20= betraying me (please correct me if I'm wrong, I hope I am) but I think =20= you have to have purchased the the latest non-cloud version of the app/=20= collection before you enroll into the cloud version. So you would have =20= an upfront buy-in of the full/upgrade of the app/collection prior to =20= paying the monthly charge and I think that has to be at least v5.5 if =20= not v6.0, right? Mike Hazarian On Dec 20, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > Honestly. "Cloud" licensing seems like it's the way to go for me. I =20= > can hardly ever make a point to spend the full amount for master =20 > collection. Even though I know most of the programs I don't do =20 > enough work in some of them to justify buying them. As a full-time =20= > freelancer, some of my projects could easily pay for it, but I'd =20 > rather pay a low $49 a month, knowing if business gets really slow, =20= > I didn't blow a huge chunk of money on something that isn't feeding =20= > my family. And if I'm about to be living in the gutter, At least I =20 > will feel I haven't overspent in my software for the year. > > I can see this model becoming popular with amateurs and hobbyists =20 > who "obtain" the software as well, because they "aren't using it to =20= > make money". $50 per month doesn't seem nearly as costly as =20 > perpetual license fees (up to $2,600) to someone who wants to dabble =20= > or learn more. > > Even so. After 1 year I'll have only paid around $600. versus $2,600 =20= > for master collection full price. In 4 years I still wouldn't have =20 > paid that price, plus I'll have upgraded to the next version by then =20= > in the "cloud" model. That doesn't seem to bad, to always be up to =20= > date on all adobe software. > > I'm not too concerned about the "cloud" model, as they aren't really =20= > using that term correctly. The programs wont run remotely, or in a =20 > browser. This is basically just a subscription with other web-based =20= > services in it. Adobe's subscriptions don't require an always on =20 > connection. Just an update per month to make sure you've paid your =20 > monthly fee. > > Unless I'm completely wrong about how this whole thing will work. > > ////Greg Balint > ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Jim Lang wrote: > >> Christ. I had a feeling we were heading in this direction. >> CS3 will probably be my last update. I'll quit altogether before >> participating in this bullshit.; >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Rendernyc =20 >> wrote: >>> I have a cs4 prod premium license an AE cs5. >>> Was planning o upgrading the suite to cs6 this time around. I dont =20= >>> work from >>> home very much anymore so there wasn't any major need. There's no =20= >>> chance >>> I'll be upgrading twice so not sure what I'm gonna do >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Harriet Thompson = >> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> What are people choosing to do about the new Adobe Creative Cloud =20= >>> licensing >>> model versus the old system of perpetual licenses? I own a bunch of >>> individual CS3 products, and I was planning to upgrade to CS6 =20 >>> Production >>> Premium when it comes out. However, I have read an announcement =20 >>> that in >>> order to qualify for CS6 upgrade pricing, users must be on CS5 or =20= >>> 5.5, and >>> that there is a 20% off offer through to December 31. So, I was =20 >>> about to >>> upgrade to CS5.5 Production Premium, when I also read that there =20 >>> will be a >>> new membership-based licensing model called the Adobe Creative =20 >>> Cloud, >>> costing $49.99 per month for individuals, but you can stick with =20 >>> the old >>> system of perpetual licenses if you prefer. If I don=92t buy the = CS5.5 >>> upgrade, can I join the Creative Cloud when it launches? What are =20= >>> other >>> users planning to do =96 Creative Cloud or perpetual license? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Harriet >>> harriet@synthetic.co.nz >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >