Return-Path: Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([173.201.192.106] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4570419 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 02:55:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 21605 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2011 02:01:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (173.247.4.230) by p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.106) with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2011 02:01:44 -0000 Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud licensing model References: From: Greg Balint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <11A29300-1382-490B-8EA2-A4EA65441A74@delrazor.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:01:52 -0500 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Well if that were the case, then it's complete crap. I think adobe really ne= eds some PR here before the idea becomes so bloated with falsities and trut= hs that confuse everyone.=20 If you can find where you read that, i'd greatly appreciate it. Need to star= t budgeting for next year.=20 ////Greg Balint ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer delRAZOR.com/ On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Michael Hazarian wrote: > My quick pass through the new licensing (a couple weeks ago) might be betr= aying me (please correct me if I'm wrong, I hope I am) but I think you have t= o have purchased the the latest non-cloud version of the app/collection befo= re you enroll into the cloud version. So you would have an upfront buy-in o= f the full/upgrade of the app/collection prior to paying the monthly charge a= nd I think that has to be at least v5.5 if not v6.0, right? >=20 > Mike Hazarian >=20 >=20 > On Dec 20, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Greg Balint wrote: >=20 >> Honestly. "Cloud" licensing seems like it's the way to go for me. I can h= ardly ever make a point to spend the full amount for master collection. Even= though I know most of the programs I don't do enough work in some of them t= o justify buying them. As a full-time freelancer, some of my projects could= easily pay for it, but I'd rather pay a low $49 a month, knowing if busines= s gets really slow, I didn't blow a huge chunk of money on something that is= n't feeding my family. And if I'm about to be living in the gutter, At least= I will feel I haven't overspent in my software for the year. >>=20 >> I can see this model becoming popular with amateurs and hobbyists who "ob= tain" the software as well, because they "aren't using it to make money". $5= 0 per month doesn't seem nearly as costly as perpetual license fees (up to $= 2,600) to someone who wants to dabble or learn more. >>=20 >> Even so. After 1 year I'll have only paid around $600. versus $2,600 for m= aster collection full price. In 4 years I still wouldn't have paid that pric= e, plus I'll have upgraded to the next version by then in the "cloud" model.= That doesn't seem to bad, to always be up to date on all adobe software. >>=20 >> I'm not too concerned about the "cloud" model, as they aren't really usin= g that term correctly. The programs wont run remotely, or in a browser. This= is basically just a subscription with other web-based services in it. Adobe= 's subscriptions don't require an always on connection. Just an update per m= onth to make sure you've paid your monthly fee. >>=20 >> Unless I'm completely wrong about how this whole thing will work. >>=20 >> ////Greg Balint >> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >> delRAZOR.com/ >>=20 >> On Dec 20, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Jim Lang wrote: >>=20 >>> Christ. I had a feeling we were heading in this direction. >>> CS3 will probably be my last update. I'll quit altogether before >>> participating in this bullshit.; >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>>> I have a cs4 prod premium license an AE cs5. >>>> Was planning o upgrading the suite to cs6 this time around. I dont work= from >>>> home very much anymore so there wasn't any major need. There's no chanc= e >>>> I'll be upgrading twice so not sure what I'm gonna do >>>>=20 >>>> On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Harriet Thompson >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> What are people choosing to do about the new Adobe Creative Cloud licen= sing >>>> model versus the old system of perpetual licenses? I own a bunch of >>>> individual CS3 products, and I was planning to upgrade to CS6 Productio= n >>>> Premium when it comes out. However, I have read an announcement that in= >>>> order to qualify for CS6 upgrade pricing, users must be on CS5 or 5.5, a= nd >>>> that there is a 20% off offer through to December 31. So, I was about t= o >>>> upgrade to CS5.5 Production Premium, when I also read that there will b= e a >>>> new membership-based licensing model called the Adobe Creative Cloud, >>>> costing $49.99 per month for individuals, but you can stick with the ol= d >>>> system of perpetual licenses if you prefer. If I don=E2=80=99t buy the C= S5.5 >>>> upgrade, can I join the Creative Cloud when it launches? What are other= >>>> users planning to do =E2=80=93 Creative Cloud or perpetual license? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Harriet >>>> harriet@synthetic.co.nz >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20