Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:27:01 +0100 (CET)
From: "mylenium@mylenium.de" <mylenium@mylenium.de>
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Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe's new upgrade policy and Creative Cloud licensing
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Again, please read: http://www.blog.myleniumstuff.de/?p=3D1840. If you do a=
 little
reading between the lines, you can assume that there are some things coming=
,
some things will be rectified, some things will be re-defined, including wh=
at
Adobe sees as "the cloud" and pricing models. I'm just not at liberty to di=
vulge
anything yet.


Mylenium


[Pour Myl=C3=A8ne, ange sur terre]
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www.mylenium.de


Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> hat am 22. Dezember 2011 um 07:55 geschrieb=
en:


>=20
> I'm glad some things have cleared up a little. What I'm wondering is, wha=
t's
> the big difference between what adobe is already doing as "subscription"
> versus Calling this new licensing "cloud". =C2=A0Because aside from being=
 able to
> use a few mobile app things and little online services which I'll probabl=
y
> never even look into, a monthly payment to use the software sounds the sa=
me as
> subscription to me.=C2=A0
> =C2=A0
> Guess we'll have to see.=C2=A0
> =C2=A0
> Thanks for chiming in, Todd.=C2=A0
>=20
> ////Greg Balint
> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
> delRAZOR.com/ [http://delRAZOR.com/]
>=20
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:41 AM, "mylenium@mylenium.de
> [mailto:mylenium@mylenium.de] " <mylenium@mylenium.de
> [mailto:mylenium@mylenium.de] > wrote:
> =C2=A0
> >=20
> > CS6 is gonna suck for many reasons, but that's not one of them. Just li=
ke
> > the current subscription, you get access to the latest version and do n=
ot
> > need to own any prior version at all, much less a permanent license of =
the
> > current one. The only downside is, of course, that once your subscripti=
on
> > ends you're left without anything at all...
> >=20
> >=20
> > Mylenium
> > =C2=A0
> > [Pour Myl=C3=A8ne, ange sur terre]
> > -----------------------------------------
> > www.mylenium.de
> > =C2=A0
> >=20
> >=20
> > Michael Hazarian <mhlists@rxpro.com [mailto:mhlists@rxpro.com] > hat am=
 22.
> > Dezember 2011 um 02:33 geschrieben:
> >=20
> > > My quick pass through the new licensing (a couple weeks ago) might be=
=C2=A0
> > > betraying me (please correct me if I'm wrong, I hope I am) but I thin=
k=C2=A0
> > > you have to have purchased the the latest non-cloud version of the ap=
p/
> > > collection before you enroll into the cloud version. So you would hav=
e=C2=A0
> > > an upfront=C2=A0 buy-in of the full/upgrade of the app/collection pri=
or to=C2=A0
> > > paying the monthly charge and I think that has to be at least v5.5 if=
=C2=A0
> > > not v6.0, right?
> > >
> > > Mike Hazarian


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    Again, please read: http://www.blog.myleniumstuff.de/?p=1840
    <span>. If you do a little reading between the lines, you can assume that there are some things coming, some things will be rectified, some things will be re-defined, including what Adobe sees as &#34;the cloud&#34; and pricing models. I&#39;m just not at liberty to divulge anything yet.</span>
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   Greg Balint &#60;greg@delrazor.com&#62; hat am 22. Dezember 2011 um 07:55 geschrieben:
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    <div>I&#39;m glad some things have cleared up a little. What I&#39;m wondering is, what&#39;s the big difference between what adobe is already doing as &#34;subscription&#34; versus Calling this new licensing &#34;cloud&#34;. &#160;Because aside from being able to use a few mobile app things and little online services which I&#39;ll probably never even look into, a monthly payment to use the software sounds the same as subscription to me.&#160;</div>
    <div>&#160;</div>
    <div>Guess we&#39;ll have to see.&#160;</div>
    <div>&#160;</div>
    <div>
     Thanks for chiming in, Todd.&#160;
     <br/>
     <br/>
     ////Greg Balint
     <div>///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer</div>
     <div>
      <a href="http://delRAZOR.com/">delRAZOR.com/</a>
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     On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:41 AM, &#34;
     <a href="mailto:mylenium@mylenium.de">mylenium@mylenium.de</a>
     &#34; &#60;
     <a href="mailto:mylenium@mylenium.de">mylenium@mylenium.de</a>
     &#62; wrote:
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       <span>CS6 is gonna suck for many reasons, but that&#39;s not one of them. Just like the current subscription, you get access to the latest version and do not need to own any prior version at all, much less a permanent license of the current one. The only downside is, of course, that once your subscription ends you&#39;re left without anything at all...</span>
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       <span>
        <span>
         <br/>
        </span>
       </span>
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       <span>
        <span>Mylenium</span>
       </span>
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       Michael Hazarian &#60;
       <a href="mailto:mhlists@rxpro.com">mhlists@rxpro.com</a>
       &#62; hat am 22. Dezember 2011 um 02:33 geschrieben:
       <br/>
       <br/>
       &#62; My quick pass through the new licensing (a couple weeks ago) might be&#160;
       <br/>
       &#62; betraying me (please correct me if I&#39;m wrong, I hope I am) but I think&#160;
       <br/>
       &#62; you have to have purchased the the latest non-cloud version of the app/
       <br/>
       &#62; collection before you enroll into the cloud version. So you would have&#160;
       <br/>
       &#62; an upfront&#160; buy-in of the full/upgrade of the app/collection prior to&#160;
       <br/>
       &#62; paying the monthly charge and I think that has to be at least v5.5 if&#160;
       <br/>
       &#62; not v6.0, right?
       <br/>
       &#62;
       <br/>
       &#62; Mike Hazarian
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