Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4577161 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:34:40 +0100 Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=JJy5Qr2b c=1 sm=0 a=nSwYzG3nL+YYqzdGadiYmA==:17 a=iASHSx9z9hkA:10 a=6QVzGSgJaQ4A:10 a=n_cyjgRKAAAA:8 a=0NtdC1r0AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=QwRJgXFf_6GrhO6IFZsA:9 a=zJd9y55bfltYYCSHdesA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Hiit177yz3gA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=70g6C39vPIQvjkvepMYA:9 a=OPdBZML4j59kGkx-bVgA:7 a=nSwYzG3nL+YYqzdGadiYmA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 24.73.238.28 Received: from [24.73.238.28] ([24.73.238.28:58151] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D8/F1-18618-6B7FDFE4; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:41:11 +0000 From: Dann Stubbs Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-21--932680368 Subject: Re: [AE] Buy a new mac pro or wait and see? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:41:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <314ACD0B-2534-4C67-B584-FBD4C3857607@darkskydigital.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-21--932680368 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i agree with the sad state of apple and their pro lines... with steve = gone now i don't know if it will change or rapidly get worse and more = consumer focused.. (still kinda hard to believe he's gone) the biggest pain with windows boxes are the whole virus thing... mac = users are relatively inexperienced in the upkeep and virus protection = stuff so that will be a huge change for them moving to a pc box - = especially one connected to the internet and you may use for = surfing/reference research all at the same time as working. i had a windows laptop get totally destroyed by some russian virus - all = by using google to search for pictures and downloading images for = reference (and no they were not pron or anything bad - was real work = research) i had to boot from a DVD and format the thing to get rid of = it. was incredibly tough even getting some of the non-backed up data off = it. i'm tempted now to go with a linux laptop install just to try to avoid = the virus stuff - but for now it's still mac laptops etc for work and = research dann ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ On Dec 30, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Darby Edelen wrote: > The rumor mill has been pointing to Apple exiting the Pro market = sooner or later. I wouldn't be surprised to see another revision to the = Mac Pro line but I've already decided on going with a Windows box for my = next machine. The factors that led me to that conclusion include: >=20 > -OS X Lion > -Final Cut Pro X > -Woefully infrequent hardware revisions (see Macrumors buyers guide) = and relative lack of options > -Price >=20 > That said, Apple is an easy out of box experience. I'm no longer = willing to pay that premium though. Build 2x 12 core Windows machines = for the price of 1x Mac Pro! >=20 > On Dec 30, 2011 9:00 AM, "Jim Feeley" wrote: --Apple-Mail-21--932680368 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii i = agree with the sad state of apple and their pro lines... with steve gone = now i don't know if it will change or rapidly get worse and more = consumer focused.. (still kinda hard to believe he's = gone)

the biggest pain with windows boxes are the = whole virus thing... mac users are relatively inexperienced in the = upkeep and virus protection stuff so that will be a huge change for them = moving to a pc box - especially one connected to the internet and you = may use for surfing/reference research all at the same time as = working.

i had a windows laptop get totally = destroyed by some russian virus - all by using google to search for = pictures and downloading images for reference (and no they were not = pron or anything bad - was real work research) i had to boot from a DVD = and format the thing to get rid of it. was incredibly tough even getting = some of the non-backed up data off it.

i'm = tempted now to go with a linux laptop install just to try to avoid the = virus stuff - but for now it's still mac laptops etc for work and = research

dann

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On Dec 30, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Darby Edelen wrote:

The = rumor mill has been pointing to Apple exiting the Pro market sooner or = later. I wouldn't be surprised to see another revision to the Mac Pro = line but I've already decided on going with a Windows box for my next = machine. The factors that led me to that conclusion include:

-OS X = Lion
-Final Cut Pro X
-Woefully infrequent hardware revisions (see Macrumors buyers guide) and = relative lack of options
-Price

That said, Apple is an easy out of box experience. I'm no = longer willing to pay that premium though. Build 2x 12 core Windows = machines for the price of 1x Mac Pro!

On Dec 30, 2011 9:00 AM, "Jim Feeley" <jfeeley@gmail.com> wrote:

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