Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4590960 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:39:41 +0100 Received: by yenm10 with SMTP id m10so1928915yen.28 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.145.33 with SMTP id o21mr26695492yhj.56.1326836804735; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:46:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.226] (c-71-63-186-29.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [71.63.186.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm55268155and.2.2012.01.17.13.46.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:46:43 -0800 (PST) From: Carey Dissmore Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DE38477B-F85D-4B48-A6FE-69A252B50DDE" Subject: Re: [AE] The Future of the Mac Pro in Video Post Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:46:42 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <609A078D-3E39-4803-97D0-BE4BF8B577C3@imugonline.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) --Apple-Mail=_DE38477B-F85D-4B48-A6FE-69A252B50DDE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Thanks for weighing in on that Jim, This ease of platform transition is an important development for our = industry.=20 I also appreciate having frank conversations with developers about the = performance they are seeing on a give platform. For example, I have seen = numerous benchmarks, and had conversations with developers that have = noted that functions such as CUDA and OpenGL are simply higher = performance, and drivers receive far more frequent updates on Windows. = That alone may not be a reason to make a platform switch, but it's = certainly grist for the mill. Carey On Jan 17, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Jim Tierney wrote: > Fwiw=85 most of us software companies, including Adobe, are pretty = good about letting you move from one platform to another. Many = companies, including us, offer cross platform serial numbers. So at = least you don=92t need to buy the software all over again. > =20 > If you think it=92s likely you=92ll switch to Windows at some point in = the near future, you may want to download the trial Windows versions of = the software you own and tuck them away. In some cases it=92s difficult = to download old versions of software, so if you need to switch you can = do so without being forced to upgrade or trying to find the right person = at a given company that will send you an old link. > =20 > Cheers, > Jim Tierney > Digital Anarchy > www.digitalanarchy.com > =20 > btw=85 The Digital Anarchy web site will be down tomorrow in support = of the blackout protest of SOPA and PIPA. > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Russel Fairley > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:34 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] The Future of the Mac Pro in Video Post > =20 > Great post, Carey. This is a subject I've been following with great = interest. I run a small shop in Toronto, and without going too far into = detail - without buying very much - we spent about $19K on Apple pro = products alone, another $6K or so in memory, accessories, etc., for our = Mac Pros, and I won't even get into software, cables, other junk we need = to connect up all of the toys. This was a building year, so we might be = ok for a couple of years with a bunch of what we have (but not all of = it), but if Apple drops the pro market altogether it's going to be a = terrifying, wildly expensive time. Forget cool new Thunderbolt toys = this year - we're sticking with what we have on the computer and = peripheral side and staying extra cautious with our cash in the event we = need to buy $11K Z800s. > =20 > Sigh. > =20 > From: Tim Sassoon > To: After Effects Mail List =20 > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:21:23 AM > Subject: Re: [AE] The Future of the Mac Pro in Video Post > =20 > =20 > On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Brendan Bolles wrote: >=20 >=20 > I bet Softimage users are glad it was once bought by Microsoft and not = Apple. > =20 > =20 > Yeah, but can you imagine how employees felt when SoftImage got sold = to Avid? Their retirement had looked so golden, and now... :-) > =20 > =20 > Tim > =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DE38477B-F85D-4B48-A6FE-69A252B50DDE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Thanks for weighing in on that = Jim,

This ease of platform transition is an important = development for our industry. 

I also = appreciate having frank conversations with developers about the = performance they are seeing on a give platform. For example, I have seen = numerous benchmarks, and had conversations with developers that have = noted that functions such as CUDA and OpenGL are simply higher = performance, and drivers receive far more frequent updates on Windows. = That alone may not be a reason to make a platform switch, but it's = certainly grist for the = mill.

Carey

On Jan 17, = 2012, at 2:08 PM, Jim Tierney wrote:

Fwiw=85= most of us software companies, including Adobe, are pretty good about = letting you move from one platform to another. Many companies, including = us, offer cross platform serial numbers. So at least you don=92t need to = buy the software all over again.
If = you think it=92s likely you=92ll switch to Windows at some point in the = near future, you may want to download the trial Windows versions of the = software you own and tuck them away. In some cases it=92s difficult to = download old versions of software, so if you need to switch you can do = so without being forced to upgrade or trying to find the right person at = a given company that will send you an old = link.
Jim = Tierney
Great post, Carey.  This is a = subject I've been following with great interest.  I run a small = shop in Toronto, and without going too far into detail - without buying = very much - we spent about $19K on Apple pro products alone, another $6K = or so in memory, accessories, etc., for our Mac Pros, and I won't even = get into software, cables, other junk we need to connect up all of the = toys.  This was a building year, so we might be ok for a couple of = years with a bunch of what we have (but not all of it), but if Apple = drops the pro market altogether it's going to be a terrifying, wildly = expensive time.  Forget cool new Thunderbolt toys this year - we're = sticking with what we have on the computer and peripheral side and = staying extra cautious with our cash in the event we need to buy $11K = Z800s.
 Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com>
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 = 12:21:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AE] The Future of the = Mac Pro in Video Post 
 
On Jan 16, = 2012, at 9:06 PM, Brendan Bolles = wrote:


I bet = Softimage users are glad it was once bought by Microsoft and not = Apple. 
Yeah, but can you imagine how = employees felt when SoftImage got sold to Avid? Their retirement had = looked so golden, and now... :-)
 


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