Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4603116 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:51:47 +0100 Received: by yenm10 with SMTP id m10so693549yen.28 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.77.72 with SMTP id c48mr3636980yhe.55.1327165035423; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:57:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.226] (c-71-63-186-29.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [71.63.186.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q29sm18685079anh.1.2012.01.21.08.57.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) From: Carey Dissmore Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best monitor for graphics? Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:57:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <42BEB3F3-56DC-4CB0-8249-034D545DE87F@imugonline.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkjPYP/1jm16YPij6RVseHA8K/DhcZd+5MVrEcyTScmrvo0LLtgOqh86GcdnJanmyOkqroY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FBD13641-18B5-4FBC-9023-76380A73FFC0" --Apple-Mail=_FBD13641-18B5-4FBC-9023-76380A73FFC0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I appreciate this discussion although I'm not too convinced any desktop = / graphics-card-connected display can be calibrated to give me the rec = 709 color reference I need for my broadcast work...but I am willing to = be persuaded!=20 This may seem like a minor point, but as someone who has been using a = 30" monitor (Apple Cinema) (2560 x 1600) for about 5 years (last = replaced 2010), I'm wondering what the impact of moving to the more = common 27" size (more affordable) of 2560x1440 would do to my work. In = editing, mixing, AE etc I tend to really use the "height" of the monitor = to view tracks. There is a 160 pixel difference in height. Anybody gone = through this? Productivity hit? Manageable? carey On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:27 AM, email blanca wrote: > I am having success with the new Dell 27" monitors (u2711). They come = pre-grayscale balanced for 6500k from the factory with a calibration = print out. I bought both of my monitors from Dell for $749 shipped. >=20 > Only comment I would make... when 1st new, the monitors did make some = noise on certain images, a very quiet whistle/buzzing sound. But that = has stopped after about 20 hours of use. >=20 > Good luck with your search. >=20 > RJ > ... > On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Evan Fotis wrote: >=20 >> Look into NEC PA241W, PA271W and my fave PA301W >> Reviews: >> = http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2011/review-nec-pa301w-bk-part26.htm= l#Conclusion >>=20 >> = http://www.anandtech.com/show/4196/nec-pa301w-review-the-baddest-30-inch-d= isplay >> On 21-Jan-12 01:07, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: >>>=20 >>> Only 24=94 but the HP Dreamcolor is about the only monitor that is = pretty decent for both. I think there is quite of bit of info on = ProVideo Coalition about using it as a reference monitor. >>> =20 >>> stephen van vuuren >>> 336.202.4777 >>> =20 >>> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >>> http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ >>> http://www.stephenv2.me/ >>> =20 >>> A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. >>> =96Stanley Kubrick >>> =20 >>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Teddy Gage >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:46 PM >>> To: After Effects Mail List >>> Subject: [AE] [OT] Best monitor for graphics? >>> =20 >>> Hi all, looking into getting 2x new 24 - 30 inch monitors, and = wanted to know what the current favorites are. Not into getting a cinema = display either. Is there anything on the market that functions as both a = standard graphics monitor and a high-end reference monitor? Are there = any LCD options that have such good color depth you could fake it with = good calibration? Does anyone use displayport or hdmi over DVI? I have = an Eizo Coloredge CG222W that does a pretty good job at filling that = role, but I'm getting a new system and don't want to drop another couple = grand on one monitor. I don't need SDI or broadcast monitoring per se, = just something that's as neutral as possible and has lots of color = control and good brightness. Any suggestions welcome many thanks, >>> -TG >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Animator & Editor >>> www.teddygage.com >>> Brooklyn >>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_FBD13641-18B5-4FBC-9023-76380A73FFC0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = appreciate this discussion although I'm not too convinced any desktop / = graphics-card-connected display can be calibrated to give me the rec 709 = color reference I need for my broadcast work...but I am willing to be = persuaded! 

This may seem like a minor point, = but as someone who has been using a 30" monitor (Apple Cinema) (2560 x = 1600) for about 5 years (last replaced 2010), I'm wondering what the = impact of moving to the more common 27" size (more affordable) of = 2560x1440 would do to my work. In editing, mixing, AE etc I tend to = really use the "height" of the monitor to view tracks. There is a 160 = pixel difference in height. Anybody gone through this? Productivity hit? = Manageable?

carey

On = Jan 21, 2012, at 8:27 AM, email blanca wrote:

I am having success with the = new Dell 27" monitors (u2711). They come pre-grayscale balanced for = 6500k from the factory with a calibration print out.  I bought both = of my monitors from Dell for $749 shipped.

Only comment I = would make... when 1st new, the monitors did make some noise on certain = images, a very quiet whistle/buzzing sound.  But that has stopped = after about 20 hours of use.

Good luck with = your search.

RJ
...
On = Jan 21, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Evan Fotis wrote:

=20 =20
Look into NEC PA241W, PA271W and my fave PA301W
Reviews:
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2011/review-ne= c-pa301w-bk-part26.html#Conclusion

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4196/nec-pa301w-review-the-b= addest-30-inch-display
On 21-Jan-12 01:07, Stephen van Vuuren wrote:

Only 24=94 but the HP Dreamcolor is about the only monitor that = is pretty decent for both. I think there is quite of bit of info on ProVideo Coalition about using it as a reference monitor.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.sv2studios.com/

http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/<= /o:p>

http://www.stephenv2.me/

 

A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

=96Stanley Kubrick

 

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv= ] On Behalf Of Teddy Gage
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:46 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] [OT] Best monitor for = graphics?

 

    Hi all, looking into getting 2x new 24 - 30 inch monitors, and wanted to know what the current favorites are. Not into getting a cinema display either. Is there anything on the market that functions as both a standard graphics monitor and a high-end reference monitor? Are there any LCD options that have such good color depth you could fake it with good calibration? Does anyone use displayport or hdmi over DVI? I have an Eizo Coloredge CG222W that does a pretty good job at filling that role, but I'm getting a new system and don't want to drop another couple grand on one monitor. I don't need SDI or broadcast monitoring per se, just something that's as neutral as possible and has lots of color control and good brightness. Any suggestions welcome many thanks,
-TG

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Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn

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