Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.99] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4606198 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:40:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 12036 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2012 02:46:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (173.247.4.230) by smtpauth05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.99) with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2012 02:46:34 -0000 Subject: Re: [AE] The Future of the Mac Pro in Video Post References: From: Greg Balint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:46:32 -0500 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Can a dual core Mac mini run on both cores? Doesn't that bog the system down= to a stand-still? Considering a while ago when I had a dual core pc and co= uld only run one core in AE Mp settings, does deadline just run a streamline= d OS completely just for rendering? Also, today's 12 core systems are 12 faster cores, with smaller architecture= and faster busses and better memory controllers. 12 cores in one box vs 8 c= ores split up across core 2 duos would be no contest. The 12 core would prob= ably beat it by 2x the speed, even though it only has 1/3 more processors.=20= I like the idea of having a dedicated farm for rendering though. That would b= e a nice alternative to faster renders; the fact that you could continue to w= ork on a dedicated station while your renders to off and finish on the netwo= rk.=20 On this small topic, I know it's been asked before, but does anyone have an i= dea if there are good modern AE benchmark project files out there that stres= s the Mp setup and RAM and can be measured by speed of render? I'd love to h= ave statistics like Cinebench provides and 3dfluff archives at cbscores.com=20= Maybe we can put one together as a list, and make sure we find processor int= ensive plugin actions, then have a second render that relies more on RAM (ti= me /echo effects maybe?) ////Greg Balint ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer delRAZOR.com/ On Jan 24, 2012, at 9:20 PM, "Chris Zwar" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jim Lang wrote:= >> Does AE work decently on a mini? >=20 > From: Teddy Gage [mailto:teddygage@gmail.com] > I think it depends on your definition of "decently," and of course, the > project. Could you mock up a few quick titles? Sure. Would you be able to > render a 1080p project with 5 million+ particles and a mess of 3D layers > and depth of field? probably not. >=20 >=20 > Actually I respectfully disagree. Mac Minis come with a dual-core i5 (i5 i= s what's in an iMac), if you give them enough ram they'll run After Effects j= ust fine. My home machine is an iMac that's just over 3 years old, it has 4= gb ram and a Core 2 Duo in it. It runs AE v5 without any problems and I've d= one a lot of high end jobs with it - it's less powerful than a current mac m= ini and is due to be replaced but it can still do anything I want it to (jus= t slowly). >=20 > Here's a thought experiment: >=20 > If you were to buy a high-end, 12-core Mac Pro and stick 24 GB ram in it, t= he Apple Store will happily charge you $6000 for it. >=20 > For the same $6000, you could buy a 27" quad-core iMac with 16GB ram, and 4= dual-core Mac Minis with 8GB ram. If you use the change to buy Deadline ne= twork rendering software, you've got yourself a nice iMac workstation and a 4= machine render farm. With dual cores and 8 GB ram, each mac mini can have 2= instances of AE render running at the same time, so you've got 8 render eng= ines at your disposal. >=20 > Would such a setup be faster than a single 12-core Mac Pro? I don't know.= But it's worth thinking about... >=20 >=20 > -Chris >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20