Return-Path: Received: from omr15.networksolutionsemail.com ([205.178.146.65] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4614682 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:58:50 +0100 Received: from cm-omr7 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr15.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q12H4fJm027569 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:04:42 -0500 Authentication-Results: cm-omr7 smtp.user=torno@sydefxink.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: torno@sydefxink.com Received: from [75.51.171.25] ([75.51.171.25:46328] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by cm-omr7 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 37/76-23412-922CA2F4; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:04:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [AE] Lion issues [was]Is it safe (10.7.2)? References: From: David Torno Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C5576F13-9C76-4CBE-A760-2417ED699389 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7BD7A972-89F3-44A9-9A72-C51934317D28@sydefxink.com> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:04:39 -0800 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-C5576F13-9C76-4CBE-A760-2417ED699389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This came through my RSS this morning. Hmmmm, 10.7.3 sounds like such a grea= t improvement. Doesn't increase my faith of Lion ever improving. :) http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/02/heres-the-fix-for-intermittent-cui-errors-foll= owing-the-10-7-3-update/ David Torno Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 --------------------- http://www.sydefxink.com http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com http://mactex.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field On Jan 31, 2012, at 4:23 PM, David Torno wrote: >> In the finder, go to View>Show status bar. That takes care of not seeing a= ny info in your finder. Also, grab a copy of tinkertool, that allows you to s= et many things back to the way of snow leopard etc. > Go to know, I will be switching that the second I get home. >=20 >> As far as saving states, turn off restoring windows in the system prefs, t= hat takes care of most of the annoying crap of apps and saving states. > I did this one on day one. The restoring windows in system prefs doesn't s= eem to stop Lion from saving application states. Tried that one and the fold= er still populates with states of all apps. >=20 >=20 >> did you do a clean install of Lion? I saw a lot of what you see when i in= stalled over snow leopard. A clean install is your best bet for any major sy= stem install. Too many files change to just upgrade IMHO. > Wasn't given the option, purchased from the app store, which was the only w= ay to buy it originally, and it went through the upgrade on it's own. I woul= d love to start fresh, but don't have the resources currently to backup all m= y files at the moment. I did read that there is an ISO of Lion within the in= stalled files that allows a backup to be burned. That may allow for a straig= ht up fresh clean install. Something I will have to deal with when I actuall= y have free time to burn. :) >=20 > David Torno > Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor > http://www.ghosttownmedia.com > O: 213.739.2290 > C: 818.391.6060 > --------------------- > http://www.sydefxink.com > http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com > http://mactex.blogspot.com >=20 > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > -Charles Field >=20 > On Jan 31, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Eric James Wood wrote: >=20 >> David, if you like, i can fix most of this for you! >>=20 >> In the finder, go to View>Show status bar. That takes care of not seeing a= ny info in your finder. Also, grab a copy of tinkertool, that allows you to s= et many things back to the way of snow leopard etc. >>=20 >> As far as saving states, turn off restoring windows in the system prefs, t= hat takes care of most of the annoying crap of apps and saving states. >>=20 >> did you do a clean install of Lion? I saw a lot of what you see when i in= stalled over snow leopard. A clean install is your best bet for any major sy= stem install. Too many files change to just upgrade IMHO. >>=20 >>=20 >> you scribbled: >>=20 >>>> In my opinion, Lions appears more dumbed down and has many features tak= en from iOS that don't work very well on a desktop >>> BINGO! It truly was built for a consumer and not a pro. They put a bunch= of safety nets to protect people from losing work, but it honestly just get= s in the way and doesn't help at all. There are a bunch of small annoyances t= hat have been implemented that bug the hell out of me. Simple things like no= t being able to see the remaining space on your disk in a finder window anym= ore. Gotta do a get info to see it now. Gonna stop myself here before fallin= g down that rabbit hole. >>>=20 >>> The only other thing I've noticed with AE is that the expression panel t= rips out too. It won't scroll to the bottom or top if your whole expression i= sn't showing to begin with when entering the edit area, but I'm pretty sure t= his isn't a Lion related thing. >>>=20 >>> David Torno >>> Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor >>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >>> O: 213.739.2290 >>> C: 818.391.6060 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> >> Helium14 | www.helium14.com >> Design | Motion + Graphic >> www.helium14.com >>=20 >> 'the next best thing to knowing something, is knowing where to find it' >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 --Apple-Mail-C5576F13-9C76-4CBE-A760-2417ED699389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
This came through my RSS t= his morning. Hmmmm, 10.7.3 sounds like such a great improvement. Doesn't inc= rease my faith of Lion ever improving. :)

O: 213.739.229= 0
C: 818.391.6060
---------------------
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com
"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Jan 31, 2012, at 4:23 PM, David T= orno <torno@sydefxink.com> w= rote:

In t= he finder, go to View>Show status bar. That takes care of not seeing any i= nfo in your finder. Also, grab a copy of tinkertool, that allows you to set m= any things back to the way of snow leopard etc.
Go to know, I will be switching that the second I get home.

As= far as saving states, turn off restoring windows in the system prefs, that t= akes care of most of the annoying crap of apps and saving states.
=
I did this one on day one. The restoring windows in syste= m prefs doesn't seem to stop Lion from saving application states. Tried that= one and the folder still populates with states of all apps.


did you do a clean install of Lion? I saw a lot of what you see= when i installed over snow leopard. A clean install is your best bet for an= y major system install. Too many files change to just upgrade IMHO.
Wasn't given the option, purchased from the app store,= which was the only way to buy it originally, and it went through the upgrad= e on it's own. I would love to start fresh, but don't have the resources cur= rently to backup all my files at the moment. I did read that there is an ISO= of Lion within the installed files that allows a backup to be burned. That m= ay allow for a straight up fresh clean install. Something I will have to dea= l with when I actually have free time to burn. :)

David Torno
V= isual Effects Artist & Supervisor
O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
---------------------
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com
"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Jan 31, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Eric James= Wood <list@helium14.com> wro= te:

David, if y= ou like, i can fix most of this for you!

In= the finder, go to View>Show status bar. That takes care of not seeing an= y info in your finder. Also, grab a copy of tinkertool, that allows you to s= et many things back to the way of snow leopard etc.
<= br>As far as saving states, turn off restoring windows in the system p= refs, that takes care of most of the annoying crap of apps and saving states= .

did you do a clean install of Lion? I saw= a lot of what you see when i installed over snow leopard. A clean install i= s your best bet for any major system install. Too many files change to just u= pgrade IMHO.


you scribbled= :

In my opinion, Lions appears more dumbed down and has many featur= es taken from iOS that don't work very well on a desktop
BINGO! It truly was built f= or a consumer and not a pro. They put a bunch of safety nets to protect peop= le from losing work, but it honestly just gets in the way and doesn't help a= t all. There are a bunch of small annoyances that have been implemented that= bug the hell out of me. Simple things like not being able to see the remain= ing space on your disk in a finder window anymore. Gotta do a get info to se= e it now. Gonna stop myself here before falling down that rabbit hole.

The only other thing I've noticed with AE is t= hat the expression panel trips out too. It won't scroll to the bottom or top= if your whole expression isn't showing to begin with when entering the edit= area, but I'm pretty sure this isn't a Lion related thing.

David Torno
Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
http:/= /www.ghosttownmedia.com
O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060


<= span>--
<ericwood>
   = ;Helium14 | www.helium14.com<= br>    Design | Motion + Graphic
 = ;  www.helium14.com=

'the next best thing to knowing something, is kno= wing where to find it'



+---End of message---+
To unsubscribe send any= message to <ae-list-off@m= edia-motion.tv>

<= /blockquote>= --Apple-Mail-C5576F13-9C76-4CBE-A760-2417ED699389--