Return-Path: Received: from gateway09.websitewelcome.com ([64.5.38.13] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4615226 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:00:33 +0100 Received: by gateway09.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 507) id 5FB7EC9C82B72; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:06:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator1184.hostgator.com (gator1184.hostgator.com [174.121.151.98]) by gateway09.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52423C9C82B4E for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:06:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.167.166.243] (port=54800 helo=Neptune) by gator1184.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RtAPo-0006HR-Uh for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:06:25 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] Inverse a LUT? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 23:06:20 -0500 Organization: SV2 Studios Message-ID: <015201cce229$2fcea4b0$8f6bee10$@sv2studios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0153_01CCE1FF.46FA2350" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJHQsgbhOJqLyRTh912ZOqPI9WYqpU1yUbQ Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1184.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sv2studios.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: cpe-024-167-166-243.triad.res.rr.com (Neptune) [24.167.166.243]:54800 X-Source-Auth: stephen@sv2studios.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbnY7c3RlcGhlbnY7Z2F0b3IxMTg0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01CCE1FF.46FA2350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Curious if this problem will go away with digital projection? Eventually digital projectors should be able to represent any visible color, I should think. It's already pretty close. The first 15/70mm filmout of my first one minute footage is currently part of Barco demo of their new 4K DLP projector vs. 15/70mm (IMAX) film that they are showing around. My master projects are in Adobe ProPhotoRGB colorspace and look fantastic. Going out to 8-bit looks pretty crappy. But even going out to 10 or 12 bit log to film loses a lot of color saturation, tonal shading and some colors just vanish. But with a DCP via the Barco DLP at 4k, I saw more colors than I see on my wide gamut LCD looking at the 32-bit project in AE. Pretty jaw dropping. I asked Barco and Fotokem and they said this new gen displays the entire XYZ colorspace. My nostalgia for film dissappeared in a flash - it was remarkable how flat out drab and yellow film with it's white point and limited gamut looked side by side. In another couple of generations, 4k and 8k digital projection with huge colorspaces, brightness and dynamic range will present a nice new palette without all the craziness of logs, out-of-gamut and such. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.sv2studios.com/ http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ http://www.stephenv2.me/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01CCE1FF.46FA2350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>Curious if this problem will go away with digital = projection? Eventually digital projectors should be able to represent = any visible color, I should think.

 

It’s already pretty close. The first 15/70mm filmout of my = first one minute footage is currently part of Barco demo of their new 4K = DLP projector vs. 15/70mm (IMAX) film that they are showing around. My = master projects are in Adobe ProPhotoRGB colorspace and look fantastic. = Going out to 8-bit looks pretty crappy. But even going out to 10 or 12 = bit log to film loses a lot of color saturation, tonal shading and some = colors just vanish.

 

But with a DCP via the Barco DLP at 4k, I saw more colors than I see = on my wide gamut LCD looking at the 32-bit project in AE. Pretty jaw = dropping. I asked Barco and Fotokem and they said this new gen displays = the entire XYZ colorspace. My nostalgia for film dissappeared in a flash = – it was remarkable how flat out drab and yellow film with = it’s white point and limited gamut looked side by = side.

 

In another couple of generations, 4k and 8k digital projection with = huge colorspaces, brightness and dynamic range will present a nice new = palette without all the craziness of logs, out-of-gamut and such. =

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.sv2studios.com/<= /span>

http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/=

http://www.stephenv2.me/

 

A film is – or should be – more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

–Stanley = Kubrick

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