Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4616496 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:57:35 +0100 Received: by yhoo22 with SMTP id o22so2141312yho.28 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=P1s8Ce8xQDeBza4QPfVgHB4VF/K012ExsHjnDW/YdIM=; b=yAKE/a13yOrILRQ0gMUA4NJ9fY6sca1CxZfV9E6qnIJZxWXUtWZt/2lv7rNMxvbcj+ hNlBpTD5bCGTnTOu8IpnwMcxJg+4EhczLd87V50iMO/dIpnbcUXxKZKdkmaOTwIkF7Yu YksXCL1V9lSwE8tzDYP2tqAR58PeBtW01OnOg= Received: by 10.236.148.143 with SMTP id v15mr17392093yhj.47.1328385810314; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.53.2 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:02:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:02:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] **** You Adobe - (Censored) To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303a320b59364c04b828ecab --20cf303a320b59364c04b828ecab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >So far the only Advantage I have seen in 64 bit is how these companies are now able to sell all of us gullible souls another round of computers. LOL are you serious? The ability to install and use more than 4GB of RAM alone is reason enough. You do know this is a list for After Effects right? The program that gobbles memory like Pringles? I can't believe people are even humoring this lame discussion. Technology moves forward. Computers become obsolete. Deal with it. Stop whining. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ren P wrote: > All valid points, but I think we need to look at the Bigger Picture here. > We > cannot continue down the path of buying new machines every year or two for > such updates. And more importantly, what are we doing to the environment > with all of these machines and obsolete paper weights? That is even more of > a concern, and one that these companies, especially Apple, HP, Dell, > Microsoft and Adobe, do not consider in any of these decisions. > > So far the only Advantage I have seen in 64 bit is how these companies are > now able to sell all of us gullible souls another round of computers. But > this is not what is needed. What is needed is some kind of stability, and > platforms that are upgradeable though some kind of parts swops or upgrades, > not buying new toys every few years, just so China can keep poisoning their > environment with toxic chemicals to make these need to have gadgets. This > does seem to be rather shortsighted by these companies that pride > themselves > in technological progress, but at what expense. This is not simply an issue > of flash not working on older platforms, or techies drooling over new toys, > this is a bigger issue. > > Ren > > > On 2/4/12 12:56 PM, "Stephen van Vuuren" wrote: > > > Well, PC/Windows is not totally free from these issues - it's just a > fact of > > life of computer architectural changes happening faster than lifecycles > and > > almost every tech company simply not devoting resources to support older > > hardware. On the Windows side, when I moved to 64-bit Windows (this > includes > > XP, Vista and Windows 7 versions) I ended up with a scanner and DV deck > that > > simply did not work anymore. I kept an old machine around but neither > Epson, > > Panasonic, Microsoft or any 3rd party ever released drivers for 64-bit, > so I > > donated them and moved on. > > > > I don't see any real chance of this changing. I just discovered also > > recently that MS Office 2010 won't open at all old MS Office versions - > we > > definitely are heading towards a future with massive amounts of data, > > software and hardware that simply won't function. > > > > stephen van vuuren > > 336.202.4777 > > > > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > > http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ > > http://www.stephenv2.me/ > > > > A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should > be a > > progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, > the > > meaning, all that comes later. > > -Stanley Kubrick > > > > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > -- Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --20cf303a320b59364c04b828ecab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >So far the only Advantage I have seen in 64 bit is how these companies = are
now able to sell all of us gullible souls another round of computers.
LOL are you serious? The ability to install and use more than 4GB of RAM = alone is reason enough. You do know this is a list for After Effects right?= The program that gobbles memory like Pringles? I can't believe people = are even humoring this lame discussion. Technology moves forward. Computers= become obsolete. Deal with it. Stop whining.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ren P <fantigua@comcast.ne= t> wrote:
All valid points, but I think we need to look at the Bigger Picture here. W= e
cannot continue down the path of buying new machines every year or two for<= br> such updates. And more importantly, what are we doing to the environment with all of these machines and obsolete paper weights? That is even more of=
a concern, and one that these companies, especially Apple, HP, Dell,
Microsoft and Adobe, do not consider in any of these decisions.

So far the only Advantage I have seen in 64 bit is how these companies are<= br> now able to sell all of us gullible souls another round of computers. But this is not what is needed. What is needed is some kind of stability, and platforms that are upgradeable though some kind of parts swops or upgrades,=
not buying new toys every few years, just so China can keep poisoning their=
environment with toxic chemicals to make these need to have gadgets. This does seem to be rather shortsighted by these companies that pride themselve= s
in technological progress, but at what expense. This is not simply an issue=
of flash not working on older platforms, or techies drooling over new toys,=
this is a bigger issue.

Ren


On 2/4/12 12:56 PM, "Stephen van Vuuren" <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

> Well, PC/Windows is not totally free from these issues - it's just= a fact of
> life of computer architectural changes happening faster than lifecycle= s and
> almost every tech company simply not devoting resources to support old= er
> hardware. On the Windows side, when I moved to 64-bit Windows (this in= cludes
> XP, Vista and Windows 7 versions) I ended up with a scanner and DV dec= k that
> simply did not work anymore. I kept an old machine around but neither = Epson,
> Panasonic, Microsoft or any 3rd party ever released drivers for 64-bit= , so I
> donated them and moved on.
>
> I don't see any real chance of this changing. I just discovered al= so
> recently that MS Office 2010 won't open at all old MS Office versi= ons - we
> definitely are heading towards a future with massive amounts of data,<= br> > software and hardware that simply won't function.
>
> stephen van vuuren
> 336.202.4777 >
> http://www.sv= 2studios.com/
> http:/= /www.outsideinthemovie.com/
> http://www.step= henv2.me/
>
> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It shoul= d be a
> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the em= otion, the
> meaning, all that comes later.
> -Stanley Kubrick
>
>
>
>
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