From: "Robert Leigh" <leighs@qwest.net>
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Subject: RE: [AE] **** You Adobe - (Censored)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:09:06 -0700
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Dell has a recycling program and there are probably a number of companies in
your city (I know that's true for Denver) that recycle old computers,
regardless of make.  But that requires users to actually take them to such a
location.

Robert

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From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
Ren P
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [AE] **** You Adobe - (Censored)

All valid points, but I think we need to look at the Bigger Picture here. We
cannot continue down the path of buying new machines every year or two for
such updates. And more importantly, what are we doing to the environment
with all of these machines and obsolete paper weights? That is even more of
a concern, and one that these companies, especially Apple, HP, Dell,
Microsoft and Adobe, do not consider in any of these decisions.

So far the only Advantage I have seen in 64 bit is how these companies are
now able to sell all of us gullible souls another round of computers. But
this is not what is needed. What is needed is some kind of stability, and
platforms that are upgradeable though some kind of parts swops or upgrades,
not buying new toys every few years, just so China can keep poisoning their
environment with toxic chemicals to make these need to have gadgets. This
does seem to be rather shortsighted by these companies that pride themselves
in technological progress, but at what expense. This is not simply an issue
of flash not working on older platforms, or techies drooling over new toys,
this is a bigger issue.

Ren


On 2/4/12 12:56 PM, "Stephen van Vuuren" <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

> Well, PC/Windows is not totally free from these issues - it's just a fact
of
> life of computer architectural changes happening faster than lifecycles
and
> almost every tech company simply not devoting resources to support older
> hardware. On the Windows side, when I moved to 64-bit Windows (this
includes
> XP, Vista and Windows 7 versions) I ended up with a scanner and DV deck
that
> simply did not work anymore. I kept an old machine around but neither
Epson,
> Panasonic, Microsoft or any 3rd party ever released drivers for 64-bit, so
I
> donated them and moved on.
> 
> I don't see any real chance of this changing. I just discovered also
> recently that MS Office 2010 won't open at all old MS Office versions - we
> definitely are heading towards a future with massive amounts of data,
> software and hardware that simply won't function.
> 
> stephen van vuuren
> 336.202.4777
> 
> http://www.sv2studios.com/
> http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/
> http://www.stephenv2.me/
> 
> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be
a
> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion,
the
> meaning, all that comes later.
> -Stanley Kubrick
> 
> 
> 
> 
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