Return-Path: Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com ([17.148.16.93] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4619304 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:34:54 +0100 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+Sb+XvHCOANR5eKgly1shw)" Received: from [192.168.1.206] (99-162-7-33.lightspeed.okcbok.sbcglobal.net [99.162.7.33]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZ200NLHDC52C80@asmtp018.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:40:55 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-08_02:2012-02-07,2012-02-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=60 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1202070425 Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe References: From: Benny Christensen X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-reply-to: Message-id: <78DD60A5-87B0-490E-A835-7C2629159899@me.com> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:40:52 -0600 To: After Effects Mail List --Boundary_(ID_+Sb+XvHCOANR5eKgly1shw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT What you are complaining about, planned obsolescence, is the basis of the whole computer industry. If you have a working computer with a working piece of software, yank it off the Internet, freeze it in time and work it until the transistors melt. There's no one stopping you. I have routinely waited and upgraded about every other time Adobe or Apple thought I should. If I can afford the new thing and I feel that it will make me money I'll jump, otherwise I'll wait. There's no law that says you have to buy the latest labor saving, gee whiz piece of software. So just save your money and use what is working for you. Benny Christensen Producers Playhouse On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:39 PM, joe cafe wrote: > wrote: > Wow, really?> > > apologies for the delayed response. You are assuming that everyone who wants to watch a Flash movie is at the edge of motion graphics, with cash to burn on perpetual hardware investment. > In fact, there are students, and yes, unemployed people. (we are in a depressed economy, you know) Their ppcs work just fine for them, and Adobe is prodding them to shell out thousands of dollars every few years, or beat it. > That is rather heartless. > Then there are those of us who are moving on to other careers, that don't pay so well, but are more satisfying. We continue to do a bit of work, but it simply would not make sense to buy the newest and greatest when what we have is in fine working order. > Maybe Adobe doesn't mean to be evil, but they could at least wait until the economy is healthy before pulling what could only be called, in this economy, a bullying tactic. > > > Apple did an architecture shift for better performance, managed a "universal" operating environment for 5 or 6 years, finally decides it's time to move on, and developers do the same...and this makes them evil? > > Sheesh. > > Carey > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, joe cafe wrote: > > > How evil can you get. > > It isn't enough that Adobe updates its software so that it can't be used on PPCs. > > Now, you can't view a new Flash movie. Adobe is not making Flash updates for PPCs. > > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --Boundary_(ID_+Sb+XvHCOANR5eKgly1shw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
What you are complaining a= bout, planned obsolescence, is the basis of the whole computer industry.&nbs= p;

If you have a working computer with a working pi= ece of software, yank it off the Internet, freeze it in time and work it unt= il the transistors melt. There's no one stopping you. 

I have routinely waited and upgraded about every other time Adobe o= r Apple thought I should. If I can afford the new thing and I feel that it w= ill make me money I'll jump, otherwise I'll wait. 

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There's no law that says you have to buy the latest labor saving, gee w= hiz piece of software. So just save your money and use what is working for y= ou.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse


On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:39 PM, joe cafe <cafe.joe@gmail.com> wrote:

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<On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:15 PM,= Carey Dissmore <carey@imugonline.com> wrote:
Wow, really?>

apologies for the delayed r= esponse.  You are assuming that everyone who wants to watch a Flash mov= ie is at the edge of motion graphics, with cash to burn on perpetual hardwar= e investment.
In fact, there are students, and yes, unemployed people. (we are in a depres= sed economy, you know)  Their ppcs work just fine for them, and Adobe i= s prodding them to shell out thousands of dollars every few years, or beat i= t.
That is rather heartless.
Then there are those of us who are m= oving on to other careers, that don't pay so well, but are  more satisf= ying.  We continue to do a bit of work, but it simply would not make se= nse to buy the newest and greatest when what we have is in fine working orde= r.
Maybe Adobe doesn't mean to be evil, but they could at least wait until= the economy is healthy before pulling what could only be called, in this ec= onomy, a bullying tactic.


Apple did an architecture shift for better performance, managed a "universal= " operating environment for 5 or 6 years, finally decides it's time to move o= n, and developers do the same...and this makes them evil?

Sheesh.

Carey

On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, joe cafe wrote:

> How evil can you get.
> It isn't enough that Adobe updates its software so that it can't be use= d on PPCs.
> Now, you can't view a new Flash movie.  Adobe is not making Flash u= pdates for PPCs.
>


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