Return-Path: Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4619324 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:58:24 +0100 Received: by bkty12 with SMTP id y12so221111bkt.28 for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:04:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.112.6 with SMTP id eq6mr12252976bkc.16.1328688267503; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.36.198 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 00:04:27 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [203.214.41.37] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:04:27 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe From: Tony Hayes To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9473a7333a8e704b86f5862 --14dae9473a7333a8e704b86f5862 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think you'll find Joe is annoyed about adobe no longer updating flash on PPC macs, he has a point, as I found out last year no one makes browsers for PPC macs either, Joe should actually be pissed at apple, he wouldn't have this problem to anywhere near the same extent if he owned a pc. Tony On 8 February 2012 18:40, Benny Christensen wrote: > What you are complaining about, planned obsolescence, is the basis of the > whole computer industry. > > If you have a working computer with a working piece of software, yank it > off the Internet, freeze it in time and work it until the transistors melt. > There's no one stopping you. > > I have routinely waited and upgraded about every other time Adobe or Apple > thought I should. If I can afford the new thing and I feel that it will > make me money I'll jump, otherwise I'll wait. > > There's no law that says you have to buy the latest labor saving, gee whiz > piece of software. So just save your money and use what is working for you. > > Benny Christensen > Producers Playhouse > > > On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:39 PM, joe cafe wrote: > > > wrote: > >> Wow, really?> > > > apologies for the delayed response. You are assuming that everyone who > wants to watch a Flash movie is at the edge of motion graphics, with cash > to burn on perpetual hardware investment. > In fact, there are students, and yes, unemployed people. (we are in a > depressed economy, you know) Their ppcs work just fine for them, and Adobe > is prodding them to shell out thousands of dollars every few years, or beat > it. > That is rather heartless. > Then there are those of us who are moving on to other careers, that don't > pay so well, but are more satisfying. We continue to do a bit of work, > but it simply would not make sense to buy the newest and greatest when what > we have is in fine working order. > Maybe Adobe doesn't mean to be evil, but they could at least wait until > the economy is healthy before pulling what could only be called, in this > economy, a bullying tactic. > > >> Apple did an architecture shift for better performance, managed a >> "universal" operating environment for 5 or 6 years, finally decides it's >> time to move on, and developers do the same...and this makes them evil? >> >> Sheesh. >> >> Carey >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, joe cafe wrote: >> >> > How evil can you get. >> > It isn't enough that Adobe updates its software so that it can't be >> used on PPCs. >> > Now, you can't view a new Flash movie. Adobe is not making Flash >> updates for PPCs. >> > >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > --14dae9473a7333a8e704b86f5862 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you'll find Joe is annoyed about adobe no longer updating flash= on PPC macs, he has a point, as I found out last year no one makes browser= s for PPC macs either, Joe should actually be pissed at apple, he wouldn= 9;t have this problem to anywhere near the same extent if he owned a pc.
Tony



On 8 February 2012 18:40, Benny Christen= sen <bennyc= hristensen@me.com> wrote:
What you are complaining about, planned obsol= escence, is the basis of the whole computer industry.=A0

If you have a working computer with a working piece of software, yan= k it off the Internet, freeze it in time and work it until the transistors = melt. There's no one stopping you.=A0

I have routinely waited and upgraded about every other = time Adobe or Apple thought I should. If I can afford the new thing and I f= eel that it will make me money I'll jump, otherwise I'll wait.=A0

There's no law that says you have to buy the latest= labor saving, gee whiz piece of software. So just save your money and use = what is working for you.

Benny Christensen
Producers Play= house


On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:39 PM, joe cafe <cafe.joe@gmail.com= > wrote:

<= ;On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Carey Dissmore=A0<carey@imugonline.com= >=A0wrote:
Wow, really?>

apologies for the delayed= response. =A0You are assuming that everyone who wants to watch a Flash mov= ie is at the edge of motion graphics, with cash to burn on perpetual hardwa= re investment.
In fact, there are students, and yes, unemployed people. (we are in a depre= ssed economy, you know) =A0Their ppcs work just fine for them, and Adobe is= prodding them to shell out thousands of dollars every few years, or beat i= t.
That is rather heartless.
Then there are those of us who are= moving on to other careers, that don't pay so well, but are =A0more sa= tisfying. =A0We continue to do a bit of work, but it simply would not make = sense to buy the newest and greatest when what we have is in fine working o= rder.
Maybe Adobe doesn't mean to be evil, but they could at least wait = until the economy is healthy before pulling what could only be called, in t= his economy, a bullying tactic.


Apple did an architecture shift for better performance, managed a "uni= versal" operating environment for 5 or 6 years, finally decides it'= ;s time to move on, and developers do the same...and this makes them evil?<= br>
Sheesh.

Carey

On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:49 AM, joe cafe wrote:

> How evil can you get.
> It isn't enough that Adobe updates its software so that it can'= ;t be used on PPCs.
> Now, you can't view a new Flash movie. =A0Adobe is not making Flas= h updates for PPCs.
>


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