Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4620476 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:49:54 +0100 Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0346EA725F2 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6330 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2012 18:55:56 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 4366, pid: 30173, t: 0.6479s scanners: clamav: m: Received: from c-98-247-168-58.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.125]) (albion@[98.247.168.58]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Feb 2012 18:55:55 -0000 From: James Culbertson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-380313572 Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:55:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <77708F7B-27A0-4AB0-8B3B-5D916B02C021@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail1.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 --Apple-Mail-1-380313572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Is Premiere being used for long-form documentary and Feature work? I = assume so, I hear people talk about it now and again on the internet, = but I've never actually met anyone who uses it on larger more intensive = projects. In fact I don't know any editors locally who use it for = professional work at all. Is it ever used for Broadcast work? Are there any drawbacks at this point compared to AVID or FCP? I'd love = to hear from someone who has used Premiere and FCP/AVID on larger = projects, rather than someone who has only used Premiere. I got called in about a month ago to finish up a short 3 minute = corporate piece started by a communications manager. Seemed quite stable = and snappy compared to my minor foray's into Premiere in years past. Thanks, James On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:49 AM, John Morgan wrote: > There was that historical thing with Premiere. Random crashes, = occasional (seldom) corruption entering into the project bringing the = need to import the corrupt project into a new project, or having to = cut/paste contents from a corrupt sequence into another=85..saving the = project to a new filename. I=92ve seen all that stuff in the 9 years = I=92ve used it. > =20 > It=92s gone now. It=92s been gone since the move to 64-bit=85.since = CS5. Always good to look at the historical perspective, but don=92t let = history cripple you. Taking the lid off RAM usage, making systems = scalable, Adobe=92s intelligent memory manager, CUDA GPU processes, all = come together to make Premiere a truly high-end stable editing platform. > =20 > John > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Glenn Ferguson > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:29 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe > =20 > Could you please elaborate on that statement? > =20 > From: brand standard > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:40 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe > =20 > historically, adobe has always seemed vulnerable to corruption. it's = the one thing that keeps me away from premiere. > From: joe cafe > To: After Effects Mail List =20 > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 6:55 AM > Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe > =20 > I've had no problems with my ppc browser. > Once again, for 99% of the population, the needs of the family has = priority over spending thousands for new hardware to watch Flash movs on = the web. > If you want video to be seen by everybody, Flash is best avoided. > =20 > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Tony Hayes = wrote: > if Joe had a 6-7 year old PC he'd have no problems installing the = latest version of flash. > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the = addressee and may contain information that is privileged and = confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. = If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are = hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution = or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this = communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and = delete this e-mail and any attachments from your system. =AD=AD =20 --Apple-Mail-1-380313572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
There = was that historical thing with Premiere. Random crashes, occasional = (seldom) corruption entering into the project bringing the need to = import the corrupt project into a new project, or having to cut/paste = contents from a corrupt sequence into another=85..saving the project to = a new filename.  I=92ve seen all that stuff in the 9 years I=92ve = used it.
It=92s = gone now. It=92s been gone since the move to 64-bit=85.since CS5. Always = good to look at the historical perspective, but don=92t let history = cripple you. Taking the lid off RAM usage, making systems scalable, = Adobe=92s intelligent memory manager, CUDA GPU processes, all come = together to make Premiere a truly high-end stable editing = platform.
From: After Effects Mail List = [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Glenn = Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, = 2012 8:29 AM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You = Adobe
Could you please elaborate on that = statement?
 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, = 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You = Adobe
 
historically, = adobe has always seemed vulnerable to corruption.   it's the = one thing that keeps me away from = premiere.
 joe = cafe < After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 = 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You = Adobe
I've had no problems with my = ppc browser.
Once again, for 99% of the population, the needs of the = family has priority over spending thousands for new hardware to watch = Flash movs on the web.
If you want video to be seen by everybody, Flash is = best avoided.