| can you quickly save out a sequence to a quicktime yet from Pr like you can in FCP? or is rendering the whole thing out the only option? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM, John Morgan <John.Morgan@slcc.edu> wrote:
Sorry for my snarkiness. J As I understand, FCPX still doesn’t work with native file types and still forces background rendering because of commitment to a proprietary codec. I watched the roll-out demo on YouTube, specifically looking for those things and didn’t see them. My longest project rarely exceeds 30 mins so according to your definition I’m not qualified to answer. But I DO use Pr on an HP Z800 box with dual quad-core Xeon i7’s which net 16 processor cores in hyperthreaded mode, and Pr/Ae/En/AME use all 16 at between 70% and 100%, depending on the type of function underway. I do have a Quadro FX 4800 CUDA card and I do have a 16-drive (RAID 5) Rorke Data Galaxy HDX2 (via 4Gb fiber channel) attached, and a Matrox MXO2LE system for HD overlay on an external monitor. This system can playback more than 20 layers of native P2 or Sony .mxf video, effects, Ae exports and FX in real time without pre-rendering the timeline. The system is rock solid and I would trust it all the way across Australia for any length of project. Currently using Pr 5.5.2.
No FCP user has ever watched my 20-layer demo project and gone away telling me his pixels are better. (An old personal joke dating back to the mac vs pc wars of the ‘90s.)
John
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:06 PM
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Your description of Premiere could be confused with a description of FCPX ...my point being that just throwing out a bunch of specs doesn't guarantee an app is ready for the most intensive projects in the real world.
Again, I assume it is ready for these type of projects. I just had not heard any reports from the trenches from editors who also use AVID/FCP7 on a daily basis.
Would you buy/rent a vehicle for a drive across the Australian outback based purely on a car makers specs, or would you want to talk to folks who have already made the drive?
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:49 AM, John Morgan wrote:
Nah, nobody would use it for professional or broadcast work, what with its scalable 64-bit architecture (meaning throw all the RAM and processors you can afford at it), ability to work natively with all professional camera (and many pro-sumer) codecs and file types, ability to hand off GPU processing to CUDA-approved cards, ability to manage differing pixel aspects and framerates on the same timeline…..and all of this in a nearly render-free (for timeline playback) environment.
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Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe Is Premiere being used for long-form documentary and Feature work? I assume so, I hear people talk about it now and again on the internet, but I've never actually met anyone who uses it on larger more intensive projects. In fact I don't know any editors locally who use it for professional work at all.
Is it ever used for Broadcast work? Are there any drawbacks at this point compared to AVID or FCP? I'd love to hear from someone who has used Premiere and FCP/AVID on larger projects, rather than someone who has only used Premiere.
I got called in about a month ago to finish up a short 3 minute corporate piece started by a communications manager. Seemed quite stable and snappy compared to my minor foray's into Premiere in years past.
On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:49 AM, John Morgan wrote:
There was that historical thing with Premiere. Random crashes, occasional (seldom) corruption entering into the project bringing the need to import the corrupt project into a new project, or having to cut/paste contents from a corrupt sequence into another…..saving the project to a new filename. I’ve seen all that stuff in the 9 years I’ve used it.
It’s gone now. It’s been gone since the move to 64-bit….since CS5. Always good to look at the historical perspective, but don’t let history cripple you. Taking the lid off RAM usage, making systems scalable, Adobe’s intelligent memory manager, CUDA GPU processes, all come together to make Premiere a truly high-end stable editing platform.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [AE] F*k You Adobe Could you please elaborate on that statement?
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:40 AM
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historically, adobe has always seemed vulnerable to corruption. it's the one thing that keeps me away from premiere.
I've had no problems with my ppc browser. Once again, for 99% of the population, the needs of the family has priority over spending thousands for new hardware to watch Flash movs on the web.
If you want video to be seen by everybody, Flash is best avoided.
if Joe had a 6-7 year old PC he'd have no problems installing the latest version of flash.
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