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| Appreciate the explanation. Not sure I understand why anyone would want/need the option of working with native footage OR a proxy if the native processes offer render-free timeline playback during editing. John ________________________________________ From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of James Culbertson [albion@speakeasy.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:37 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Love You Adobe As Eric mentioned there are two different possible background processes going on that you can turn on or off and control in various ways including codec type of course. 1. You can choose whether to transcode in the background any native source video to an intermediate like Prores on ingest of source footage (or later at any time during the edit; FCPX also unwraps source footage automatically if necessary). Whether you are transcoding source or not, you can immediately begin to playback and/or edit with the footage. When the footage is done transcoding FCPX seamlessly starts to use the optimized transcodes rather than the native footage. You can delete the intermediate footage at any time and go back to using the original native source. 2. You can turn on or off background rendering in the timeline (or in compound clips) of effects, composites, and other clip modifications. But if you turn off background rendering you can still playback the timeline without rendering. Even on my old MacPro I can edit most everyday type of projects without rendering (couple of composited clips with or without alpha, titles, graphics, effects and color correction on each clip, audio effects). I did try compositing 20 1080p clips together which was easy to do when the playhead was parked, but my old mac choked on playback, so there are limits depending upon your CPU/GPU combo. I'll be curious to upgrade my CPU and test this again. James On Feb 8, 2012, at 2:34 PM, John Morgan wrote: > Thanks James. > So just to clarify what I thought I saw during the FCPX rollout, one of the "selling points" in the demo that I watched was that "now all this rendering can occur in the background during low-use CPU cycles." If that means a background encode/render to a ProRes or other proxy is going on in the background, then that is still not "working with files natively" in my book. Premiere has no background render processes that occur automatically unless the user starts a render process for exporting. In Pr, with a system like mine, no rendering ever needs to occur in the background. All native files stay native and do not change during the edit. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of James Culbertson > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:01 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Love You Adobe > > 30 minutes is still a good data point. Thanks for the feedback. > > And just for the record, FCPX does playback natively everything I have thrown at it so far (on my 4.5 year old first generation dualcore MacPro with upgraded ATI Radeon HD 5770). Certainly all H.264/MPEG4/AVCHD variants of any SD/HD resolution or frame rate (and all legacy formats of course). Only exception I can think of is XDCAM at this point. I initially followed Apple's recommendation of transcoding to proRes but have found that for short projects at least I don't really need to -- I imagine this will be especially true for newer Macs. > > I don't think I will be doing 20-layers on my old MacPro with any existing editing app though. Time to upgrade my hardware. > > James > > > > > This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this e-mail and any attachments from your system. > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> > +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> |
