Return-Path: Received: from eatspam.slcc.edu ([144.35.15.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4620821 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:48:54 +0100 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1328752497-0437c61281932940001-edO5QZ Received: from vCAS2.slcc.int (vcas2.slcc.int [10.1.11.53]) by eatspam.slcc.edu with ESMTP id IFU1QVKCxwUVzZwu for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:54:57 -0700 (MST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: John.Morgan@slcc.edu Received: from EXCH.slcc.int ([127.0.0.1]) by vCAS2.slcc.int ([fe80::8031:551b:9a53:7716%11]) with mapi; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:54:57 -0700 From: John Morgan To: After Effects Mail List Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:54:57 -0700 Subject: RE: [AE] Love You Adobe Thread-Topic: [AE] Love You Adobe X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [AE] Love You Adobe Thread-Index: AczmyBeBqmt40uA3QbKNiyiLP8tpWgAAfcWd Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: vcas2.slcc.int[10.1.11.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1328752497 X-Barracuda-URL: http://eatspam.slcc.edu:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at slcc.edu X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.88013 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Carey and James, thanks much for adding to this discussion. As I listen to = both your explanations about benefits of working in a common codec, I almos= t feel like we're trying to reach across a cultural divide. "A mid-point co= nversion" is a concept I can't get my head around. Granted, I work as a sin= gle production entity. I don't share projects or move projects between com= puters. I don't edit other shooter's work. I don't import other's projects = from other editing apps; therefore, a need for a mid-point conversion has n= ever existed here. That said, maybe I DO work in a common codec of sorts.....better named 'a c= ommon sequence setting.' With the Matrox MXO2LE hardware and drivers, I us= e sequence settings that Matrox drivers provide. Since I shoot 720p 23.98 o= n both my P2 and Sony PMW-F3 cameras, I can use the same Matrox sequence s= etting for both P2 MXF and Sony XDCAM EX native footage. No conversions or = transcodes needed to put video into this sequence setting, just direct file= transfer and import. In this "culture" as I'm going to call it, one would= never want to dumb down, transode or re-encode the native files. From this= native Matrox sequence setting, all imaginable export possibilities exist = for me within the range of choices provided in Premiere, including several = "accelerated" h.264 and native Matrox codec choices. My system is fast enou= gh that Matrox acceleration doesn't matter. No gain there. I still have all the options provided through dynamic linking to Encore, Af= ter Effects and Audion. So as you guys tout the benefits of proxy or common= codecs, with whatever background rendering needs to occur, I'm still scrat= ching my head thinking "why would anyone do that?" So with your background rendering and options for mid-point conversions, wh= at happens when your ultimate destination is h.264 for Blu-Ray, same for di= tial signage, PLUS export for half-res (640x360) windows media and full-res= windows media for Powerpoint or presentaton embedding? See what I mean? Wh= at's the point of any kind of "common codec" or mid-point conversions when = ultimately you're going to export to multiple codecs? In my world, the nati= ve timeline with support for native video becomes the "digital master" of s= orts, and all the one-offs go out in any direction as 1st generation qualit= y. Anyway....guess I'd better shut up with the non-After Effects discussions. = Thanks for the indulgence. John This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the addr= essee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential or ot= herwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this= e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any una= uthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message = is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please no= tify the sender by return e-mail and delete this e-mail and any attachments= from your system.=