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This is interesting. Approaching the thread as a VFX artist who uses NLE's more of a means to an end, I have to say I end up going back and forth through quicktime a LOT. My clients primarily demand QT's either in animation with alpha or H264. I do a ton of work offsite through vimeo pro: I like the interface and its familiar for clients. Also has nice grouping and password features. I find their conversion of h264 much better than youtube as well. I am also primarily a PC user as the cost / performance ratio for VFX is much better as an individual. Not to mention I can service, break down, upgrade and repair all of my systems. I will output a raw AVI for rendering and then transcode on premiere to H264, animation or lossless .mov. Have never had a problem with this system other than the occasional h264 gamma issue. But of course like John Morgan says I do more work start-to-finish than take on entrenched projects and hand-offs, but so far it works great.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
Woops. By gotcha I meant that I understand. Not that I win or something Not to hijack anyone’s thread, but for me this is an interesting discussion. Look at this from the PC side for a moment. Some perspective from two angles.
1) Though I have QT installed as a means of viewing .mov files outside of Premiere, exporting to Quicktime is a very random/seldom thing for me. QT is not a delivery method I use. I do purchase various animated backgrounds that often are in QT format, then import and work with them in Pr render-free like any other codec/file type. But QT is not a “workflow” for me. But if it was, the export to .mov format via 16 processors goes very fast.
2) Interesting that you say “gotcha.” For that thing (in this case) that FCP does well…perhaps quicker or maybe even render free as you allude, Pr on my system accelerates or is render free on a quantum of other processes (editing in general) such that at the end of the day a productivity comparison of the two systems might be substantially different. In that sense there is the risk of spending a dollar to earn a dime, so to speak.
Productivity using Pr on equally configured mac and PC would be identical.
John
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gotcha. i did a quick edit in pr a month or so ago to try it out.
this was the one thing that really put a damper on my workflow being able to quickly get a QT without rendering is important for me at least
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:42 PM, John Morgan <John.Morgan@slcc.edu> wrote:
No. For me, no reason to. I use H.264 (.mp4) as my standard export of choice. So there ya go. Stick with FCP!
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