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Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere Pro [branched from previous thread]
From: Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com>
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:17:59 -0600
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are you always using AJA sequences ? can you do a quick test ? create a =
desktop / custom sequence that doesn't do I/O to the AJA and see what =
you get. I'm suspecting it should be good and thinking it might be the =
AJA driver overhead... well thats my thought anyway. worth a quick test. =
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also do you have your CUDA drivers updates ?

do you have a single Q4000 card ? or 2 cards - one for displays, one for =
CUDA ?

if you check "Use Previews" ( on by default ) in export PP should not =
need to formally render. it will use either any actual render files from =
the TL and just use CUDA to generate the frames on the fly just like =
playback. that should vastly increase your render times.

steve o

On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

> Hmm... I've had 32G RAM in my MacPro3,1 since I bought it.  I have =
latest drivers, average 1GB/s reads from my RAID, updated Pr 5.5.2, OS =
10.6.8.
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> I posted last night that I just got one H.264 720 clip in that scrubs =
well.  It's the only clip in the project, and I'm wondering now if that =
is a clue.  Most of the time, I have dozens of clips in a project.  This =
was the first Long-GOP that allowed me to scrub like intraframe. =20
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> I'm juggling a few projects now.  One has all .mp4 and .MTS files, and =
a bunch of JPEG stills, and they're a nightmare.  Scrubbing is almost =
futile.
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> I loaded up the trial of Avid MC6, and using AMA, I get beautiful =
smooth scrubbing, even to the monitor through my Kona LHi with all the =
types of media that work with AMA.  The difference is night and day.
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> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:40 AM, Gary Berendsen wrote:
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>> On a macpro 2009 with 32GB here with osx and win7, PP works exactly =
the same. Previews the same, I just found some codec options different =
between the 2 os's. Have no problems with scrubbing etc.  Only time I =
experienced that recently is on a stage design job i was doing and =
running PP and AE  at the same time on my MBP 2011 with 8 GB which would =
cause problems with dynamic linking and the playback in AE and PP =
especially which app had control of the hardware on the tower no =
problems.  What I have found that most PP probs seem to be due to low =
RAM.  I do however hit render a lot in PP but that is more a habit so it =
all plays well, I also do that in FCP.
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>> gary
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>> On 2/8/2012 10:19 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
>>> My guess is that this isn't on Mac or with Long-GOP material, =
because my take is that Adobe hasn't lived up to the claims of native =
editing on this platform.  I still transcode to ProRes if I need to get =
work done in a time frame I can manage.  Half the time I scrub in Pr =
with Long-GOP, the video doesn't update, either at all, or at a rate =
above 2 FPS.
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>>> A lot of long form docs and low budget features are being shot on =
H264 / MPEG, and I doubt you're going to see many claims that they're =
cutting native on a Mac with Pr.  Sounds like a recipe for Seppuku.
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>>> I really want to love Pr, and I do for ProRes and DVCProHD editing.  =
But, I noticed I swear a lot more when trying to either edit native, or =
edit using my AJA card.  I hope these get the same respect that Pr =
Windows users get when CS6 comes out (or before would be nice, too!).
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>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote:
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>>>>> Is Premiere being used for long-form documentary and Feature work?
>>>> Yes. _Act of Valor_ and _Monsters_ spring to mind as recent =
examples.
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>>>>> Is it ever used for Broadcast work?
>>>> Yes. The BBC, Hearst, Turner, and several other organizations have =
moved to using it on some or all of their projects.
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>>>> There are a lot of customer success stories on the Adobe website. =
Here's a link to one:
>>>> =
www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=3Dcasestudydetail&casestudy=
id=3D1097986
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>>>>> I got called in about a month ago to finish up a short 3 minute
>>>>> corporate piece started by a communications manager. Seemed quite
>>>>> stable and snappy compared to my minor foray's into Premiere in =
years
>>>>> past.
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>> gary berendsen
>> http://garyberendsen.com
>> VFX generalist
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