Return-Path: Received: from omr12.networksolutionsemail.com ([205.178.146.62] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4624786 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:40:58 +0100 Received: from cm-omr1 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr12.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1DHlAGL017160 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:47:10 -0500 Authentication-Results: cm-omr1 smtp.user=torno@sydefxink.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: torno@sydefxink.com Received: from [75.51.170.154] ([75.51.170.154:36780] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by cm-omr1 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 12/45-17723-D9C493F4; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:47:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [AE] 720 or 1080 References: From: David Torno Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-25DD4CF3-B7DF-4064-A0D3-06EB28BE58E7 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:47:05 -0800 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-25DD4CF3-B7DF-4064-A0D3-06EB28BE58E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is an extremely interesting conversation. 720? Really? I had no idea th= is was still alive as a standard for broadcast. Ever since bluray won the wa= r, 720 went to consumers, so I thought. Our office has never once delivered 7= 20, it has been 1080 for years. All of our clients shoot at 4k, 2k or 1080, t= hen want 1080 23.976 / 24 / 25 delivered, and these are for commercials, mus= ic videos and PSA. All of which go to broadcast then usually to web. Our 108= 0 projects can usually be fully self contained within a 2tb CalDigit easily.= Rarely have we had enough assets to fill a 4tb raid for a single project. G= ranted the end runtime isn't sitcom or film length. I'm curious as to which outlets are requesting 720 for you guys. =20 David Torno Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 --------------------- http://www.sydefxink.com http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com http://mactex.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > I will always go 720 unless they specify 1080 for two reasons: the renderi= ng overhead adds up over time, and few clients have displays that really sho= w a difference between 720 and 1080. Honestly on a display under 36" its not= worth it for the added effort and time to render. Not to mention increased d= isk space for storage >=20 > On Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM, "Jim Curtis" wrote: > I've got a series of spots coming up. After years of SD deliverables, cli= ent has requested we start finishing HD versions. >=20 > DG FastChannel will accept 720 or 1080. >=20 > Seems to me that finishing in 720 is the quickest way to delivery. It giv= es me some room to pan & scan with 1080 material, rendering to 720 is faster= , and my storage and backup will be easier. Seems like a slam dunk case for= finishing 720. >=20 > But... to those of you who can shed some light... Am I missing anything by= not finishing in 1080? >=20 > Thanks, > Jim C. >=20 > . >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to --Apple-Mail-25DD4CF3-B7DF-4064-A0D3-06EB28BE58E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
This is an extremely inter= esting conversation. 720? Really? I had no idea this was still alive as = ;a standard for broadcast. Ever since bluray won the war, 720 went to c= onsumers, so I thought. Our office has never once delivered 720, it has been= 1080 for years. All of our clients shoot at 4k, 2k or 1080, then want 1080 2= 3.976 / 24 / 25 delivered, and these are for commercials, music videos and P= SA. All of which go to broadcast then usually to web. Our 1080 projects= can usually be fully self contained within a 2tb CalDigit easily. Rarely ha= ve we had enough assets to fill a 4tb raid for a single project. Granted the= end runtime isn't sitcom or film length.

I'm c= urious as to which outlets are requesting 720 for you guys.  

David Torno
Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
http://www.ghosttownmedia.com=
O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
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http://aeioweyou.blo= gspot.com

"The most useless day is that in wh= ich we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Feb 13,= 2012, at 9:10 AM, Teddy Gage <ted= dygage@gmail.com> wrote:

I will always go 720 unless they specify 1080 for two reasons:= the rendering overhead adds up over time, and few clients have displays tha= t really show a difference between 720 and 1080. Honestly on a display under= 36" its not worth it for the added effort and time to render. Not to mentio= n increased disk space for storage

On Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM, "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
I've got a series of spots coming up.  After years of SD deliverables, c= lient has requested we start finishing HD versions.

DG FastChannel will accept 720 or 1080.

Seems to me that finishing in 720 is the quickest way to delivery.  It g= ives me some room to pan & scan with 1080 material, rendering to 720 is f= aster, and my storage and backup will be easier.  Seems like a slam dun= k case for finishing 720.

But... to those of you who can shed some light... Am I missing anything by n= ot finishing in 1080?

Thanks,
Jim C.

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