Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4625072 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:55:49 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.22] (71-13-195-18.static.eucl.wi.charter.com [71.13.195.18]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MA9Uv-1Rlqco3vYX-00Bv6b; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:02:01 -0500 From: Steve Oakley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DFB9C210-0E91-4567-8546-580B4AE96071" Subject: Re: [AE] 720 or 1080 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:01:59 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <4214F62B-8053-45A5-948A-2E65E76715F2@practicali.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:ITHY2ba9U+AbFRjJEvdi2e+MLv9XwRi0U24luC96LKU ujpr81gz8Vwd6aJSgDgeFt94WbETQyS62X/xiq0T7SxTAEEzVJ DC8O2eyUGT87j25uA3EKIO87aQU97XdRmrfHeho5SyU69BeiSY isf87e3PHeAvh7jEof9pEgBSa4UM78yVFrXHs60d1MsorabtN3 vWiYPcFA0VCC2Ojtv0A2rirF2l3L1rIGOkJcbjb1oCMrXS+Psm uSSIsny9pQVGpallvV9LpqoFF80UN2qoxZwPTwJ/+iPLBnbYim l/t8rsv/ulEYGmpvpgXte4X7ukIcRKJQp6M2ZdsgMKamEbKgON 1+J995EXYIovmP+/Y+Isc090wCdrj6Ty9jG8Ke1AqYIXdC21KY Godu65Z/IaSzg== --Apple-Mail=_DFB9C210-0E91-4567-8546-580B4AE96071 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii you need to give them what they want. as noted several networks are 720. = there is nothing wrong with 720. its a lot easier to work with. = however... even youtube can handle 1080 these days, and thats not even = 1:1 pixels on a 27" apple display at 2500ishX1440. I used 720 as the house format for many years. this worked fine given = that until 2 or 3 years ago, most 1080 displays where 1344X768 or = whatever that odd res was. so 25% of your 1080 pixels got tossed anyway. = it was for the most part a waste of time, processing and pixels. now = thats all changed with most displays being true 1:1 1080 or better. these days I'm all 1080p. if they want interlace, that happens on = output. if they want 720p, scale down. thats really the best way to do = it, and you'll never have to answer questions about the quality of = upscaling 720->1080, even if it generally looks ok. s On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:03 PM, patrick siemer wrote: > I ;agree, in order of preference..... >=20 > 1080p > 720p > 1080i >=20 > If your local fox station has any HD, it is 720p, as all fox stations = broadcast in 720p. > There are not stations that broadcast in 1080p, only 1080i >=20 >=20 >=20 > IMHO...Interlacing sucks for motion graphics. >=20 > patrick siemer > www.tapeandglue.com >=20 > On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:32 AM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >=20 >> well if it is 720P vs 1080i then I would go with 720P but if all Ps = being equal I would go with 1080P - and rather than just say no to 720P, = just say no to 1080i then no to 720P >>=20 >> timt >>=20 >> From: "Paul Miller" >>=20 >> I agree with David. 720P? Really? >>=20 >> As a "consumer" I scoff at 720P. The only device manufacturer who = seems=20 >> to think 720P is "good enough" is Apple. Our local FOX affiliate = still=20 >> broadcasts their news in *SD*, and I have to laugh, but in a sad way. >>=20 >> Just say no to 720P. >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DFB9C210-0E91-4567-8546-580B4AE96071 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii you = need to give them what they want. as noted several networks are 720. = there is nothing wrong with 720. its a lot easier to work with. = however... even youtube can handle 1080 these days, and thats not even = 1:1 pixels on a 27" apple display at 2500ishX1440.

I = used 720 as the house format for many years. this worked fine given that = until 2 or 3 years ago, most 1080 displays where 1344X768 or whatever = that odd res was. so 25% of your 1080 pixels got tossed anyway. it was = for the most part a waste of time, processing and pixels. now thats all = changed with most displays being true 1:1 1080 or = better.

these days I'm all 1080p. if they want = interlace, that happens on output. if they want 720p, scale down. thats = really the best way to do it, and you'll never have to answer questions = about the quality of upscaling 720->1080, even if it generally looks = ok.

s


On = Feb 13, 2012, at 3:03 PM, patrick siemer wrote:

www.tapeandglue.com
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:32 AM, pixelbot@comcast.net = wrote:

From: "Paul Miller" <paul@fxtech.com>

= I agree with David. 720P? Really?

As a "consumer" I scoff at = 720P. The only device manufacturer who seems 
to think 720P is "good = enough" is Apple. Our local FOX affiliate still 
broadcasts their news = in *SD*, and I have to laugh, but in a sad way.

Just say no to = 720P.


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