Return-Path: Received: from omr10.networksolutionsemail.com ([205.178.146.60] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4636759 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:16:03 +0100 Received: from cm-omr5 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr10.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1ONMaTs020745 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:22:36 -0500 Authentication-Results: cm-omr5 smtp.user=chris@chriszwar.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: chris@chriszwar.com Received: from [58.104.23.56] ([58.104.23.56:49272] helo=[10.1.1.5]) by cm-omr5 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 4A/BE-27012-ABB184F4; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:22:35 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [AE] OT resolution trivia From: Chris Zwar In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:22:32 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) On 25/02/2012, at 3:59 AM, Chris Meyer wrote: > I suspect it's an analog hangover. Yes, this is it. It's all a historical artefact. Prior to digital and HD, TV standards around the world could be = categorised as either 525 or 625 lines, usually (but not always) = corresponding to NTSC and PAL. However the horizontal resolution would = vary depending on the analogue bandwidth that was allocated in each = country - usually between 5 and 8 mhz. In the truest sense, analogue TV = did not have a horizontal resolution in pixels, it had a bandwidth. If you look at character generators and TV video cards from that period, = they didn't actually specify a "resolution" in pixels that we would = recognise today- they would specify a timing resolution in nanoseconds. = So a 6ns character generator would have a higher resolution than an 8ns = character generator (because 6ns is faster). But they'd all work at = either 525 or 625 lines. It's a bit like looking at the difference between VHS and Beta SP. = Decks in the same country will record the same signal with the same = number of lines - they're either 525 or 625 line decks. But VHS has = appalling bandwidth compared with Beta SP, so the image quality is much = lower. But you can't measure the difference between them in pixels, as = they don't have pixels... just bandwidth. But they record either PAL or = NTSC, regardless of how well they do it. While everyone on this list is more likely to recognise terms like ITU-R = 601, REC 601, D1 rather than something like '6ns', the significance of = those letters is often lost. Basically they represent an agreed = industry standard on how to take a 'squirt' of analogue bandwidth and = convert it into a digital format. The reason we got stuck with 720 = horizontal pixels and rectangular pixel aspect ratios lies in the maths = behind that standard. But it doesn't mean that analogue PAL and NTSC = actually have 720 horizontal pixels, only that 720 is the agreed = standard. Early non-linear systems such as the Media 100 digitised = video with square pixels - 640x480 - and I remember reading an article = that argued it provided a higher quality image than 720x480, as the same = amount of bandwidth was distributed amongst fewer pixels, so the image = suffered from less compression (hence higher quality). The point is that the number of lines was always constant, regardless of = the image quality and analogue bandwidth of a particular device, so = that's how they're described. FWIW I found an old copy of 'broadcast engineer' from the late 90s which = looked at the proposed standards for ATSC/HD. One of the engineers = interviewed said "I hope they choose 1035 lines. Anything else would be = stupid..." It made me smile. -Chris =20=