Return-Path: Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4647369 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:34:18 +0100 Received: by vcbfk14 with SMTP id fk14so4940889vcb.28 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:41:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rendernyc@gmail.com designates 10.52.68.241 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.68.241; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rendernyc@gmail.com designates 10.52.68.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rendernyc@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rendernyc@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.68.241]) by 10.52.68.241 with SMTP id z17mr41963725vdt.97.1331055672031 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:41:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C0+vMx/4iWOafVi3ucxxbkrl3dro+q/XEv4hpLzgsLE=; b=oKoIW5AtRyCacDayw9Tj2Ie4+8SE6jXgDC8d3NWZLSP6lvOeW5s4HKNPhYs/DKA+4u LWI6kJEbogXGHn3mbqHPvtVl0uqr6OI7lozHwD9v1S7gWBqwI6GVSJh20YOdcHXudcpM n+Hf5G+9kD81TAF9vXwu+rrm8YpH3XEcEmzgCty8KqVTUXDpdCFTA4TFgBLKydrrqmBq WZrHtWjUYOHk3emP018ROLnjsn1XJoI9e6RTxN1ugGdYcsur6NKfoxC0IL+TiCTq9p2P qLWd2IBiHCYpxbUfctgeHMpVL45mp+wbNu6RlWe+8TwtglTIn9K+CJVILOY9VQngzUxy Tr8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.68.241 with SMTP id z17mr35930822vdt.97.1331055671962; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.48.70 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:41:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Mac kernel panics (continued) From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079b81680eadb04ba968c95 --20cf3079b81680eadb04ba968c95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 you can also use istat remote and monitor the machines remotely from your iphone http://bjango.com/iphone/istat/ On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jeff H wrote: > For monitoring the inside temps, you could install a little app called SMC > Fan Control, or iStat Menus. Both apps will also let you control the fan > speed and monitor just about anything that has a temperature sensor inside > the mac. > > I noticed in my office that when rendering, especially 3D, the inside > temps on the CPU's (Mac Pro 12 core) would get well into the 150's. After > turning up the fan speed just a tad, it brought it down about 30 degrees. > I'm not saying that the heat is the only reason for the KP's but I'd > definitely want to know how hot the machine was getting, especially if the > AC wasn't running. Maybe you could kick the fans up at night to offset the > warmer room? > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Chris Zwar wrote: > > > Just picking up an older thread... > > > > Basically I'm working in a studio that has a load of identically specc'd > Macs, presumably all purchased at the same time. They all have nVidia > Quadro FX cards in them and they all kernel panic regularly. > > > > Software / OS and Cuda drivers are up to date. The problem seems to lie > with the nVidia cards. The only noticable thing is that they very rarely > panic during the day, but mostly overnight when rendering on the farm. > This suggests it may be a heat issue, as the air conditioning goes off at > 6pm and it's pretty warm in the office by 9am. However the problem also > seems to lie with GPU enabled software, including optical flares and > sapphire (and even the screen saver) so it might not be heat after all. As > noted in my original post (way down below) simply applying the optical > flares effect to a solid can prompt a kernel panic. > > > > The fact the problem affects so many Macs (about 10) suggests it isn't > an individual case of faulty ram or even a dodgy graphics card. Software > updates haven't helped. > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > Thanks for both your help. > > > > I've downloaded the latest CUDA driver (which I didn't have) and am > looking forward to seeing if it makes a difference. > > > > I do always uncheck the GPU option for optical flares (and any other > plugin that gives the option) however there's always the crossed fingers > and silent prayer the first time that OF is applied to a layer and then > seeing how quickly you can tick the box! It's annoying that it's such a > gorgeous and popular effect, it's not uncommon for it to have been applied > hundreds of times in a single large project, and if the project is causing > kernel panics then then you have to go through and find the solitary > instance that still has the GPU option enabled... (the PT effect search > script is pure gold...) > > > > Judging from the number of machines effected it does seem like an issue > with nVidia drivers somewhere... > > > > > > -Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Curtis [mailto:jpcurtis@me.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 03:11 PM > > To: 'After Effects Mail List' > > Subject: Re: [AE] Mac Kernel panics > > > > I swear by Disk Warrior, which I run immediately after every Kernel > Panic. It seems to vanquish them for a long while. Then for good measure, I > run Applejack AUTO before commencing work again. > > > > I've only had about four KPs on my MacPro3,1 since buying it in 2008. > They seem to have been more related to a RAID controller than GPU, but I > only say that because the KPs mostly have occurred within a few days of > either installing new PCI cards or drivers. > > > > BTW, Optical Flares (latest rev) will crash AE 100% of the time with my > newish Quadro 4000 when the "use GPU" box is checked. It works fine as long > as that box is unchecked. Perhaps you could try unchecking the box to see > if that helps things. > > > > > > On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Chris Zwar wrote: > > > >> I'm working on a Mac Pro with an nVidia 4500 Quadro FX card. I probably > get about 1 kernel panic a day, which seems to be caused by open GL or GPU > accelleration. The crash reports all point to After Effects as the cause of > the panic, but it's only GPU plugins that cause a panic. There's a bunch of > macs here with similar specs and they all seem to suffer from the same > problem- if it was just mine I'd suspect faulty hardware. It's not uncommon > to arrive in the morning and find half the machines on the render farm have > kernel panicked. > >> > >> I originally thought it was just the 'optical flares' plugin (we have > the latest version), but it seems that any plugin that utilises the > graphics card has a chance of bringing the machine down, possibly including > sapphire. > >> > >> I have open GL turned off in AE, have all the latest software updates, > and I avoid open GL / GPU acceleration where I can. But are there any other > suggestions to fix this? > >> > >> -Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> +---End of message---+ > >> To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > -- danny princz exposedideas.com --20cf3079b81680eadb04ba968c95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you can also use istat remote and monitor the machines remotely from your i= phone

http:/= /bjango.com/iphone/istat/

On Tue, Mar= 6, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jeff H <jeff.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:
For monitoring the inside temps, you could i= nstall a little app called SMC Fan Control, or iStat Menus. =A0Both apps wi= ll also let you control the fan speed and monitor just about anything that = has a temperature sensor inside the mac.

I noticed in my office that when rendering, especially 3D, the inside temps= on the CPU's (Mac Pro 12 core) would get well into the 150's. =A0A= fter turning up the fan speed just a tad, it brought it down about 30 degre= es. =A0I'm not saying that the heat is the only reason for the KP's= but I'd definitely want to know how hot the machine was getting, espec= ially if the AC wasn't running. =A0Maybe you could kick the fans up at = night to offset the warmer room?


Jeff







On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Chris Zwar wrote:

> Just picking up an older thread...
>
> Basically I'm working in a studio that has= a load of identically specc'd Macs, presumably all purchased at the sa= me time. =A0They all have nVidia Quadro FX cards in them and they all kerne= l panic regularly.
>
> Software / OS and Cuda drivers are up to date.= =A0The problem seems to lie with the nVidia cards. =A0The only noticable t= hing is that they very rarely panic during the day, but mostly overnight wh= en rendering on the farm. =A0This suggests it may be a heat issue, as the a= ir conditioning goes off at 6pm and it's pretty warm in the office by 9= am. =A0However the problem also seems to lie with GPU enabled software, inc= luding optical flares and sapphire (and even the screen saver) so it might = not be heat after all. =A0As noted in my original post (way down below) sim= ply applying the optical flares effect to a solid can prompt a kernel panic= .
>
> The fact the problem affects so many Macs (about 10) suggests it isn&#= 39;t an individual case of faulty ram or even a dodgy graphics card. =A0Sof= tware updates haven't helped.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
> Thanks for both your help.
>
> I've downloaded the latest CUDA driver (which I didn't have) a= nd am looking forward to seeing if it makes a difference.
>
> I do always uncheck the GPU option for optical flares (and any other p= lugin that gives the option) however there's always the crossed fingers= and silent prayer the first time that OF is applied to a layer and then se= eing how quickly you can tick the box! It's annoying that it's such= a gorgeous and popular effect, it's not uncommon for it to have been a= pplied hundreds of times in a single large project, and if the project is c= ausing kernel panics then then you have to go through and find the solitary= instance that still has the GPU option enabled... (the PT effect search sc= ript is pure gold...)
>
> Judging from the number of machines effected it does seem like an issu= e with nVidia drivers somewhere...
>
>
> -Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Curtis [mailto:jpcurtis@me.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 03:11 PM
> To: 'After Effects Mail List'
> Subject: Re: [AE] Mac Kernel panics
>
> I swear by Disk Warrior, which I run immediate= ly after every Kernel Panic. It seems to vanquish them for a long while. Th= en for good measure, I run Applejack AUTO before commencing work again.
>
> I've only had about four KPs on my MacPro3= ,1 since buying it in 2008. They seem to have been more related to a RAID c= ontroller than GPU, but I only say that because the KPs mostly have occurre= d within a few days of either installing new PCI cards or drivers.
>
> BTW, Optical Flares (latest rev) will crash AE 100% of the time with m= y newish Quadro 4000 when the "use GPU" box is checked. It works = fine as long as that box is unchecked. Perhaps you could try unchecking the= box to see if that helps things.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Chris Zwar wrote:
>
>> I'm working on a Mac Pro with an nVidia 4500 Quadro FX card. I= probably get about 1 kernel panic a day, which seems to be caused by open = GL or GPU accelleration. The crash reports all point to After Effects as th= e cause of the panic, but it's only GPU plugins that cause a panic. The= re's a bunch of macs here with similar specs and they all seem to suffe= r from the same problem- if it was just mine I'd suspect faulty hardwar= e. It's not uncommon to arrive in the morning and find half the machine= s on the render farm have kernel panicked.
>>
>> I originally thought it was just the 'optical flares' plug= in (we have the latest version), but it seems that any plugin that utilises= the graphics card has a chance of bringing the machine down, possibly incl= uding sapphire.
>>
>> I have open GL turned off in AE, have all the latest software upda= tes, and I avoid open GL / GPU acceleration where I can. But are there any = other suggestions to fix this?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
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