Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4653540 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:08:17 +0100 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120313091523.OSMG5374.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:15:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.6] ([24.205.88.47]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id kxFN1i00911HYT405xFNvs; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:15:23 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rvNqJbVGdbt4egs52VbhtoJZG7AoPDG9H2iogr/sNfs= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=B+8qk+Kcu1Ba1jRfEkRdhQ==:17 a=ZsGHq9l7AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=F5lwaP_VcoLLZYd2uPIA:9 a=JauCwwXWXgiubCNlMVAA:7 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=SrpMv_ytQi4A:10 a=ZF-vLlx_tRYA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=3Cw2FKiasqIA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=0uAaMeq1evUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=L56m2sy3v9kk77Xh:21 a=SP2jqEbdfnVkmrpM:21 a=thypQXxFZP6S0i8BKegA:9 a=ECRFYyueBTp_avk9yrcA:7 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=B+8qk+Kcu1Ba1jRfEkRdhQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-70--1011879586 Subject: Re: [AE] Driving me nuts Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:15:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <20B612BC-D1F3-40A8-AAD1-0D959C44C4FD@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-70--1011879586 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Still works that way in 5.5. What is so tedious is creating the work area, then having to make a = custom selection. I'm breaking down about one hundred clips out of maybe = 12 comps. Making sure I select the Custom option each time is a real = pain. It would be so much easier if I could select a piece of the clip = and have it stick without going through the extra 4 clicks =96 that is = when I remember to do it. Cause if I forget, and I do sometimes, it's a = really big pain to go back and figure out what I screwed up. Jonathan On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Chris Zwar wrote: > FWIW this process has been made more tedious by the way that selecting = 'custom' in the render settings doesn't set the default values to the = work area. It used to, I think it changed with CS 5. >=20 > I have previously requested that Adobe revert back to the way it used = to work, so that you could set a work area, add to render queue, then = change 'work area' to 'custom' in the render settings dialogue and the = work area in and out values would be copied across. Then you could = change the work area, add to render queue, change it to 'custom' and = continue on. I'm still using CS 5, and when you select 'custom' it = defaults to in and out points of 0 and the comp length respectively. >=20 > Has this been fixed with CS 5.5? If not, then it's something I will = request again. I know that CS 5 was a major upgrade, but it's little = changes like that that can really impact on your daily workflow. >=20 >=20 > -Chris >=20 > On 13/03/2012, at 11:13 AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: >=20 >> Sounds like a good approach. Maybe someone will pick up on the idea. = Thanks again, Phil. >>=20 >> And thanks for the sympathy, tt. >>=20 >> Jonathan >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 12, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>=20 >>> It would probably be easy enough to create a script that adds the = current comp to the render queue but fills the custom timespan based on = the current work area. >>>=20 >>> This would allow multiple renders from the same comp. >>>=20 >>> Phil >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Phil Spitler | Associate Creative Director | Bonfire Labs | t = : 415.394.8200 | c : 415.571.3139 | Bonfirelabs.com >>>=20 >>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:58 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote: >>>=20 >>>> that fix seem worse than the problem - it would be nice if there = was a setting where the work area would stick, I am constantly hitting = the render settings and hitting the custom and then of course your = forget one and there is a lot of going back and forth - Jonathan, I feel = your pain. >>>>=20 >>>> tt >>>>=20 >>>> From: "Phil Spitler" >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:49:49 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Driving me nuts >>>>=20 >>>> I just dupe the render comp a bunch of time before adding to the = queue >>>>=20 >>>> Phil >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Phil Spitler | Associate Creative Director | Bonfire Labs | = t : 415.394.8200 | c : 415.571.3139 | Bonfirelabs.com >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Ok, I'll admit with a little more presence of mind I could avoid = this, but this is driving me nuts. >>>>=20 >>>> I have many comps that 'm breaking up into discreet renders. Unless = in the Render Settings I remember to make the work area a Custom = Setting, the work area to render changes as I change the work area = itself. Now I know this makes sense doe many situations. I get that this = is a valuable idea. But it almost never matches how I work. >>>>=20 >>>> As I say, I know this is me, but I wish there were a switch I could = throw that would make the work area stick when I set it in the render. >>>>=20 >>>> Perhaps there is. Anyone know of such a thing in the prefs or = somewhere else? >>>>=20 >>>> Many thanks, >>>>=20 >>>> Jonathan >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> JONATHAN PENZNER >>>> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >>>> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >>>>=20 >>>> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >>>> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>>>=20 >>>> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JONATHAN PENZNER >> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >>=20 >> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>=20 >> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >>=20 >=20 JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-70--1011879586 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
FWIW this process has been made = more tedious by the way that selecting 'custom' in the render settings = doesn't set the default values to the work area.  It used to, I = think it changed with CS 5.

I have previously = requested that Adobe revert back to the way it used to work, so that you = could set a work area, add to render queue, then change 'work area' to = 'custom' in the render settings dialogue and the work area in and out = values would be copied across.  Then you could change the work = area, add to render queue, change it to 'custom' and continue on. =  I'm still using CS 5, and when you select 'custom' it defaults to = in and out points of 0 and the comp length = respectively.

Has this been fixed with CS 5.5? =  If not, then it's something I will request again.  I know = that CS 5 was a major upgrade, but it's little changes like that that = can really impact on your daily = workflow.


-Chris
On 13/03/2012, at 11:13 AM, Jonathan Penzner = wrote:

Sounds like a good = approach. Maybe someone will pick up on the idea. Thanks again, = Phil.

And thanks for the sympathy, = tt.

Jonathan


On= Mar 12, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

It = would probably be easy enough to create a script that adds the current = comp to the render queue but fills the custom timespan based on the = current work area.

This would allow multiple renders = from the same = comp.

Phil


Phil Spitler |   Associate = Creative Director  |  Bonfire  Labs  |  t : = 415.394.8200  |  c : 415.571.3139  |  Bonfirelabs.com

On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:58 PM, pixelbot@comcast.net = wrote:

From: "Phil Spitler" <phil@bonfirelabs.com>
To= : "After Effects = Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Sent: Monday, = March 12, 2012 4:49:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Driving me = nuts

I just dupe the render comp a bunch of time before adding to = the = queue

Phil


Phil Spitler |   Associate = Creative Director  |  Bonfire  Labs  |  t : = 415.394.8200  |  c : 415.571.3139  |  Bonfirelabs.com

On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Jonathan Penzner wrote:

Ok, I'll admit with a little more presence of = mind I could avoid this, but this is driving me = nuts.

I have many comps that 'm breaking up = into discreet renders. Unless in the Render Settings I remember to make = the work area a Custom Setting, the work area to render changes as I = change the work area itself. Now I know this makes sense doe many = situations. I get that this is a valuable idea. But it almost never = matches how I work.

As I say, I know this is = me, but I wish there were a switch I could throw that would make the = work area stick when I set it in the = render.

Perhaps there is. Anyone know of such a = thing in the prefs or somewhere else?

Many = thanks,

Jonathan



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