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Subject: Re: [AE] Is it safe (10.7.2)?
From: Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-4653899@media-motion.tv>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:39:26 -0600
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To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>

I'm using 10.7.3 and AE CS5.5, and although it has been stable, I find I =
am less productive in Lion. Silly little things like hiding other apps =
not pushing them to the bottom of the Cmd-tab queue, lack of Save As in =
some apps (the duplicate-and-save workaround is slower), user folders =
being hidden (have a sidebar alias now), scroll bars disappearing by =
default (have that sys pref changed as well), rebooting not remembering =
layout of Finder windows regardless of Shut Down option, etc.

 - Chris


On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

> So, I guess the answer is NO, don't move to Lion for working in the =
Creative Suite?
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> Here's what I've learned from using 10.7.3 on a separate partition =
(with upgraded drivers for Lion):  Shapeshifter and FreeFormPro plugs =
still crash AE.  Optical Flares with "Use GPU" box checked still crashes =
Ae in Lion.
>=20
> I'm currently working on a Pr project in which I'm only lightly using =
Ae for making text graphics.  I've output the same Sequence multiple =
times under both 10.6.8 and 10.7.3, and can't discern a speed difference =
between the two.
>=20
> So, the chorus of silence to my query seems to confirm my own tests.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:
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>> David, have you upgraded to 10.7.3 or 10.7.4 since you wrote this, =
and if so, has it changed your mind about Lion?
>>=20
>> And/or, can anybody else offer insight on whether there's a benefit =
to upgrade to Lion?=20
>>=20
>> I have a couple of plugs that won't work with 10.6.8 and my Quadro, =
but other than that, my system is pretty stable on 10.6.8.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Jim C.
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>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:02 PM, David Torno wrote:
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>>> Don't get me started on vocalizing the hatred I have for Lion in =
general right now. I regret not just staying put with my beloved Snow =
Leopard 10.6.8. SO MUCH FASTER AND RESPONSIVE. In my experience at =
least. As far as Adobe and Lion goes, AE has operated about the same for =
me. I've had Media Core failing on launch a few times due to the "saved =
state" function of Lion, but deleting the actual saved state resolves =
it. I'm saddened that the saved state is not an optional feature, it =
just is the new way of operating with Lion now. Photoshop has run =
decently, but i haven't really pushed it at all. Haven't touched the =
other Adobe apps in Lion yet. Overall, I've watched my MacBook Pro drop =
about 50% in speed and usefulness because of the update. 10.7.2 didn't =
help any either. 10.7.3 is around the corner and my fingers are crossed =
that I can hopefully gain back my once beloved machine from it's coma.
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>>> David Torno
>>> Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
>>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com
>>> O: 213.739.2290
>>> C: 818.391.6060
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>>> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
>>> -Charles Field
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>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
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>>>> Due to my policy of not upgrading to an OS.0 release, I've held off =
on upgrading my main systems to 10.7.x.
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>>>> I have heard scant few reports of CS, or rather third-party plugs, =
not working with 10.7 that were working fine under 10.6.8.
>>>>=20
>>>> Most the bad has been about audio plug-ins, not necessarily Ae =
plug-ins.  But, to be honest, up until lately, I've turned a deaf ear to =
any news about 10.7.
>>>>=20
>>>> I'm considering upgrading my Media Composer to 6, due to an =
upcoming job on MC, where 10.7 is recommended. =20
>>>>=20
>>>> And now that FCPX has FCP7 import (via a third party utility by =
Intelligent Assistance), I'm considering giving FCPX a test drive as =
well.
>>>>=20
>>>> But, my main NLE is now Pr, and I will continue to rely heavily on =
Ae, Ai, and other CS components for the bulk of my work.  I have a slew =
of plug-ins for Ae.  A slew, I tells ya'.
>>>>=20
>>>> So... I was hoping to get some good/bad reports on whether this is =
a good time to make the jump to 10.7.2.  I don't really want to run a =
dual boot system.  I like to make a commitment and stick with it.
>>>>=20
>>>> Any advice?
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim C.
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