Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog119.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.147] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4656353 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:34:54 +0100 Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob119.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKT2Ib3CoX3/5srCOVdhlE+K6VqV9KZFvO@postini.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:42:05 UTC Received: by vcbfk14 with SMTP id fk14so4250335vcb.0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=mINeRWjO5uQ9JcnAlN/F2hv19xXzjaOYUO9Q9WjL5CY=; b=pIGtzg0xDrQbzc9E2xD4nDXdqU3Y7nSSC52qe2psMEhT+Dz2gMIHE/wa7AvDmYryjP bO6uK8VbYvP4MZsCdzuL6nx5l2/73aSyl7Ty6PrEiyejneIZ9IYJIL9xrPORCRy9UuOi 3EQi6YmuOD1AhNkoFL1JMr33+EVLnW9+u5jEkeKjramGqJpFLLvVYyt1aXYZ4O4nXO25 mLokKkaz8it2kmCQ8x6rjA0rdnE2nimEjCLRRtn7oSm5WvtB1FD6s974A2YgMfsHmlFn Ndli5e5Bo2k6BajM+D0Bzrc74xHoiFbGa3nLP0tMQDpQGbqlUyf2yAlZVPtkKy2S3nbB aj8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.29.244 with SMTP id n20mr5293389vdh.22.1331829724012; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.11 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:42:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Help tracking 29.97 footage with pulldown in Mocha From: Ross Shain To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f348c99df5604bb4ac5a8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmvOoOUcUVp7W2ermbCh4tr2SeRM/IYa0KhQfdp+TGvi+f4/ulg6rI9B+bE8ptQOE/F9mBO --20cf307f348c99df5604bb4ac5a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Chris, Your best best is to import the footage into AE and interpret the source footage to remove the pulldown and work in a 24p AE comp. mocha has the ability to remove the pulldown on import, but since you are probably compositing in AE, I would use AE's pulldown removal and actually render a progressive QT to send to mocha. Then in mocha work in the same 24 fps progressive mode. Once you have the sold track or roto data back in your AE comp, you can render your final AE comp with pull-down and fields re-inserted. In general, for trouble shooting and to keep things clean, I always prefer to remove the pulldown and work on frame based material before re-introducing the pulldown. Last note: if you have done any re-timing in FCP, you will want to go back to the original footage to get a clean pulldown removal. Hope this helps. -Ross On 15 March 2012 11:35, Chris Wolfe wrote: > I have an ongoing issue tracking 1080i ftg with pulldown on it (via a > filter in FCP) that I need to track, roto/treat, and return to FCP with > pull down on it. I have tried a variety of methods but cannot seem to nail > down a work flow between FCP, Mocha and AE that works well. Does anyone > have a workflow that works for them here? > > thanks! > Chris > -- Ross Shain Chief Marketing Officer Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual effects tools. www.imagineersystems.com Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com Find us online: Facebook | Vimeo| Imagineer Forums | Imagineer Blog --20cf307f348c99df5604bb4ac5a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris,
Your best best is to import the footage into AE and interpret= the source footage to remove the pulldown and work in a 24p AE comp. mocha= has the ability to remove the pulldown on import, but since you are probab= ly compositing in AE, I would use AE's pulldown removal and actually re= nder a progressive QT to send to mocha.

Then in mocha work in the same 24 fps progressive mode.

Once yo= u have the sold track or roto data back in your AE comp, you can render you= r final AE comp with pull-down and fields re-inserted.

In general, = for trouble shooting and to keep things clean, I always prefer to remove th= e pulldown and work on frame based material before re-introducing the pulld= own. Last note: if you have done any re-timing in FCP, you will want to go = back to the original footage to get a clean pulldown removal.

Hope this helps.
-Ross



On = 15 March 2012 11:35, Chris Wolfe <cmattwolfe@gmail.com> wrote:
I have an ongoing issue tracking 1080i ftg with pulldown on it (via a filte= r in FCP) that I need to track, roto/treat, and return to FCP with pull dow= n on it. I have tried a variety of methods but cannot seem to nail down a w= ork flow between FCP, Mocha and AE that works well. Does anyone have a work= flow that works for them here?=A0

thanks!
=
Chris



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Imagineer Systems - develo= pers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.

www.imagineersyste= ms.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com
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