Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4656359 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:42:13 +0100 Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so3478979yhr.28 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:49:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=eM5z/gdI/knAQ6j0hlviISde512bIgpTGeBvjFY3oXU=; b=xb+JJFjxV0R/fk+GyYLsQKiaRyuJJF/SvWBRZuJB+IohK6eRvlsTFlZggCB9flnPYJ gqNwWBlBr7j5mpjzg7dMPBiWT9JvNR8DmeVEDz+k5ktc4kempz7ID6zI+MOYiFNTrFLc m9Szzrz/u6r7rGUdE+dllPevsNFnsSa6/2NBSQPeMK/JbK1QoRirLXeNcLrQqpPEuf/X ae1ISLhTfcAZkpqorm31O7KueqUYVJl8LGoMYZwvszutFg59HfKe1PtePQnhikXDBXE1 lF0XrINBvn6dBLzWCXWNIn9ZPSHt1WQMOJJnhmEUCJGRFV8ezlakhJaWGVEc2YmLngBc JNvg== Received: by 10.236.182.2 with SMTP id n2mr9067729yhm.11.1331830163253; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [10.185.16.149] ([157.166.175.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm2952343anm.5.2012.03.15.09.49.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:49:22 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:49:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [AE] Help tracking 29.97 footage with pulldown in Mocha From: Chris Wolfe To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] Help tracking 29.97 footage with pulldown in Mocha Thread-Index: Ac0Cy4xaFYfwZZLCuE62FcdogoyU1g== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3414660562_31897808" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3414660562_31897808 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sure does. Can=B9t wait to try it out. On 3/15/12 12:42 PM, "Ross Shain" wrote: > Hi Chris,=20 > Your best best is to import the footage into AE and interpret the source > footage to remove the pulldown and work in a 24p AE comp. mocha has the > ability to remove the pulldown on import, but since you are probably > compositing in AE, I would use AE's pulldown removal and actually render = a > progressive QT to send to mocha. >=20 > Then in mocha work in the same 24 fps progressive mode. >=20 > Once you have the sold track or roto data back in your AE comp, you can r= ender > your final AE comp with pull-down and fields re-inserted. >=20 > In general, for trouble shooting and to keep things clean, I always prefe= r to > remove the pulldown and work on frame based material before re-introducin= g the > pulldown. Last note: if you have done any re-timing in FCP, you will want= to > go back to the original footage to get a clean pulldown removal. >=20 > Hope this helps. > -Ross >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 15 March 2012 11:35, Chris Wolfe wrote: >> I have an ongoing issue tracking 1080i ftg with pulldown on it (via a fi= lter >> in FCP) that I need to track, roto/treat, and return to FCP with pull do= wn on >> it. I have tried a variety of methods but cannot seem to nail down a wor= k >> flow between FCP, Mocha and AE that works well. Does anyone have a workf= low >> that works for them here?=A0 >>=20 >> thanks! >> Chris >=20 >=20 --B_3414660562_31897808 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] Help tracking 29.97 footage with pulldown in Mocha Sure does. Can’t wait to try it out.


On 3/15/12 12:42 PM, "Ross Shain" <rosss@imagineersystems.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Hi Chris,
Your best best is to import the footage into AE and interpret the source fo= otage to remove the pulldown and work in a 24p AE comp. mocha has the abilit= y to remove the pulldown on import, but since you are probably compositing i= n AE, I would use AE's pulldown removal and actually render a progressive QT= to send to mocha.

Then in mocha work in the same 24 fps progressive mode.

Once you have the sold track or roto data back in your AE comp, you can ren= der your final AE comp with pull-down and fields re-inserted.

In general, for trouble shooting and to keep things clean, I always prefer = to remove the pulldown and work on frame based material before re-introducin= g the pulldown. Last note: if you have done any re-timing in FCP, you will w= ant to go back to the original footage to get a clean pulldown removal.

Hope this helps.
-Ross



On 15 March 2012 11:35, Chris Wolfe <cmat= twolfe@gmail.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>I have an ongoing issue tracking 1080i ftg with = pulldown on it (via a filter in FCP) that I need to track, roto/treat, and r= eturn to FCP with pull down on it. I have tried a variety of methods but can= not seem to nail down a work flow between FCP, Mocha and AE that works well.= Does anyone have a workflow that works for them here?=A0

thanks!
Chris


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