Return-Path: Received: from gateway14.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.150.9] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4662414 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:39:52 +0100 Received: by gateway14.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id D645E121A8452; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:39:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ham01.websitewelcome.com (ham.websitewelcome.com [173.192.111.52]) by gateway14.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CCA121A83CF for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:39:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ham01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 666) id 77180AB9FAF24; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:39:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ham01.websitewelcome.com X-Spam-Flag2999: NO X-Spam-Level2999: X-Spam-Status2999: "No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by ham01.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C09AB9FAEBE for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:39:52 -0500 (CDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=crishdesign.com; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-BWhitelist:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir:X-Source-Sender:X-Source-Auth:X-Email-Count:X-Source-Cap; b=bReEBoVhJnufTnV4ifZgyM5O7FnPkADNMx0uliC/oy2A/ZpAgMqzkd2WJtVfDVkvHN7zqdSRieLAlPCB9Al8Tp4IecQVjXKs1uREVWuVQG+9dvAffDWfPAomnWJZ+WIb; Received: from [199.21.106.118] (port=52037 helo=[192.168.0.3]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SA9ah-0002Ul-CQ for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:39:51 -0500 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8468C1A4-34EB-4B3E-9699-5019AAF9282F" Subject: Re: [AE] OT: the latest version of the Mac RAM advice thread Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:39:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <0B5795F5-80A3-4407-BDFD-563DE4EE30A5@crishdesign.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.3]) [199.21.106.118]:52037 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== --Apple-Mail=_8468C1A4-34EB-4B3E-9699-5019AAF9282F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, you had to put gear in service by the end of last year to affect = your 2011 taxes, so at this point I'd wait until NAB to see if anything = interesting comes up. - Chris On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > Thanks for your thoughts, Chris. I'm working on a MacPro octo that = turned four this year, and was wondering what I'm missing. >=20 > When I price a new top-of-the-line Mac Pro at over $6K without any = additional RAM or drives, I wonder if it's worth that much to get 10 or = 20% faster renders in Ae, which is only one among several of the apps I = rely on for my business, and one of maybe two apps I use that benefits = from more, faster cores. >=20 > Since I charge by the hour, investing in faster gear (without a = related rate hike) could be a net loss proposition. >=20 > So, when it comes to section 179 deductions, I've come to look at = other value-adds for my clients. >=20 > Recent additions to my arsenal include: >=20 > - workstation furniture > - work room acoustic treatments > - fireproof safe to store LTO tapes and external drives > - air compressor to blast my RAID and towers as part of routine = maintenance >=20 > I look for opportunities for sensible and legit deductions, but seem = to be getting to the point where I just don't need more equipment. >=20 > The current MacRumors Buying Advice is "don't buy" for MacPro. The = next model (if there is one) is sure to be around $13K fully loaded = (even with lower cost third-party adds), if past is prologue. Well, = it's still early in 2012. >=20 > Jim C. >=20 >=20 > On Mar 20, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Chris Meyer wrote: >=20 >> Part of it was Section 179 deduction to get us under a few limits = (such as being able to max out our Roth IRAs, in addition to our other = retirement accounts). And when you take federal, state, and self = employment tax into account, the actual bottom line cost does help = soften the sticker shock. But I do have to say, it is zippier rendering = as well. Then my old workstation was shuffled into the screen capture = room, replacing a less capable machine that was in there. Computers live = a long time here; their jobs just change with age. >>=20 >> - Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>=20 >>> So, Chris... Is a three year old MacPro over the hill? Or, is this = more of a case of needing more Section 179 deductions for the tax year, = or some other reason? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>>> From: Chris Meyer >>>>> Reply-To: After Effects Mail List >>>>> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:49:52 -0600 >>>>> To: After Effects Mail List >>>>> Subject: [AE] OT: the latest version of the Mac RAM advice thread >>>>>=20 >>>>> For tax planning, Trish has informed me that I must - over my = feeble protests - upgrade my 3-year-old MacPro tower to a new 12-core = machine, fully kitted out if possible. (Please send chocolate in lieu of = sympathy cards.) >>>>>=20 >>>>> I must admit I wasn't paying attention in class when others were = discussing optimal RAM configurations for the 12-cores. Was it 24 gig, = or 32 gig? Allocated how across the DIMMs? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Also, who are the preferred vendors for Mac RAM these days? We = used to be Techworks fans, but after they got taken over (and then = dropped) by Buffalo Technology, the quality plummeted - Trish and I have = had 3 RAM failures this year. The OWC RAM I've plugged in as = replacements has worked so far, but more current experiences are always = appreciated. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Finally, folks still happy with the Quadro 4000? Should I move my = 4800 from my old tower into the new one and stick the 4000 in our = "training" machine, or vice versa? Keeping in mind that the new machine = will inevitably come with Lion, which I've been avoiding so far. >>>>>=20 >>>>> many, many thanks in advance for your hard-earned experiences and = advice - >>>>> Chris >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8468C1A4-34EB-4B3E-9699-5019AAF9282F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Well, = you had to put gear in service by the end of last year to affect your = 2011 taxes, so at this point I'd wait until NAB to see if anything = interesting comes up.

 - = Chris


On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:29 = PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts, = Chris.  I'm working on a MacPro octo that turned four this year, = and was wondering what I'm missing.

When I price a new = top-of-the-line Mac Pro at over $6K without any additional RAM or = drives, I wonder if it's worth that much to get 10 or 20% faster renders = in Ae, which is only one among several of the apps I rely on for my = business, and one of maybe two apps I use that benefits from more, = faster cores.

Since I charge by the hour, = investing in faster gear (without a related rate hike) could be a net = loss proposition.

So, when it comes to section 179 = deductions, I've come to look at other value-adds for my = clients.

Recent additions to my arsenal = include:

- workstation furniture
- = work room acoustic treatments
- fireproof safe to store = LTO tapes and external drives
- air compressor to blast my = RAID and towers as part of routine = maintenance

I look for opportunities for = sensible and legit deductions, but seem to be getting to the point where = I just don't need more equipment.

The current = MacRumors Buying Advice is "don't buy" for MacPro.  The next model = (if there is one) is sure to be around $13K fully loaded (even with = lower cost third-party adds), if past is prologue.  Well, it's = still early in 2012.

Jim = C.


On Mar 20, 2012, at 5:19 PM, = Chris Meyer wrote:

Part of it was Section 179 = deduction to get us under a few limits (such as being able to max out = our Roth IRAs, in addition to our other retirement accounts). And when = you take federal, state, and self employment tax into account, the = actual bottom line cost does help soften the sticker shock. But I do = have to say, it is zippier rendering as well. Then my old workstation = was shuffled into the screen capture room, replacing a less capable = machine that was in there. Computers live a long time here; their jobs = just change with age.

 - = Chris



On Mar 20, = 2012, at 4:08 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

So, Chris...  Is a = three year old MacPro over the hill?  Or, is this more of a case of = needing more Section 179 deductions for the tax year, or some other = reason?



From: Chris = Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com>
Reply-To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 = 13:49:52 -0600
To: After = Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Subject: [AE] OT: the latest = version of the Mac RAM advice = thread

For tax planning, Trish = has informed me that I must - over my feeble protests - upgrade my = 3-year-old MacPro tower to a new 12-core machine, fully kitted out if = possible. (Please send chocolate in lieu of sympathy = cards.)

I must admit I wasn't paying attention = in class when others were discussing optimal RAM configurations for the = 12-cores. Was it 24 gig, or 32 gig? Allocated how across the DIMMs? =

Also, who are the preferred vendors for Mac = RAM these days? We used to be Techworks fans, but after they got taken = over (and then dropped) by Buffalo Technology, the quality plummeted - = Trish and I have had 3 RAM failures this year. The OWC RAM I've plugged = in as replacements has worked so far, but more current experiences are = always appreciated.

Finally, folks still happy = with the Quadro 4000? Should I move my 4800 from my old tower into the = new one and stick the 4000 in our "training" machine, or vice versa? = Keeping in mind that the new machine will inevitably come with Lion, = which I've been avoiding so far.

many, many = thanks in advance for your hard-earned experiences and advice = -
Chris
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