Return-Path: Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([98.139.52.204] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4668422 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:53:01 +0200 Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2012 18:53:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.156] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2012 18:53:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2012 18:53:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 252383.54846.bm@omp1039.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39573 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2012 18:53:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=uPzQedH69UfaPPXYv5SmOPFvOHSJ+kb4J962+kbk+juyDTd6iUgqGZnQo1w4bUjuV4nlF68H5ceQMgJ7p1a4PsY1VuYGhPzqlCtl3RWS/Inx3onT8HswjzR66wOms2Tgw7JZNgVNaO7473RK5X8MRq1eYAq5+kXL9vlzeWmH+Rs= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1332874396; bh=zRz+I8mYGQxfdyAZhCbwCyXUR4EqIbLaiyrbLzdjieM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=vLbmZYs1AKOswgGrnQsLJOKhljX5TIGgCAB3WXaM+p0HoX/izZf7anLcXuqXLY+2DXe4LqmAcyk5M7scn9isCLF6KKOohlYByl3JXUEtF6mz68/6G0q4MImgSgJRd+8gMzbj9p9102k9nZJP/HwqcbguGbhvOv2qtG+ubU7/Nhs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Uw8KJo8VM1n8sEWsac.dGYk0I7ydYwQztHPYcKBYRtiVlJ0 e_ANBOLNMy9lgkW5OuwjXvKodjr4wfwqvJ0Z2CAXsnmWgzPF4tvamljUpQxn hWGIRH8CGenvOKGCmEAxdxKmHTMWTP.XjvXmGqTwpWeQ8v9zLR5JhieBvN0n Knm6qIuYqCm.ZAI2ZmFY4a_V7TnkstKjw0JvwMZR4jMSTMvISKXhWpzdUmNx ge7v1_vzQBszY8CB4N3.AOT063uEia.EfzEmkQUq18suGsan7H0z3Ty8ny60 eoXPYnErFfdq8gAL4cJMuyZ37WSKMD9Ow7Y0wYgHLokavm6PMDqY4PXGTbJc QOHzyjzrk0vbg4tzbudl4EuXwD8e63YI7O95usSz5MzOQxWrW1tnAMfqMiCH R3JLa9vzhZPDMS9x_ig03EAWzlmPrvYyGt_7GGXoFLhTxmEA2fg2A7zwLWGo mDUgrbNkh9Kjs9Fc2esxzttnVBKLnY3Q7FJLCSKwIA56EHBmVgpyeHWZ1glV .iC4bkGRAoAPVk4PMZIH4FZ7zprMfFQL851dGmjBnKqdJLF0mYRg37OKekxx L2gQzy663tzpAUTRiT0OHPQUcSFmVL6g8BB.pdBQ8cWQn9XrBUX2KqrYCkq3 XCFJhR.oOq.bhh3CzCNBnueiURgZqgCzvdNQjD7zeh8XHgUVIKbbtlozkzFp qqgLhHLlWEBdDF4BudQKa9xUoQiY2x6zmSMg- X-Yahoo-SMTP: oDRl5YCswBBBAF2CmVHEIgXNa1rzfIV.sTBdVEGK6LOFehL6Acs- Received: from [128.149.178.245] (enrique0210@128.149.178.245 with xymcookie) by smtp119-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2012 11:53:15 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out References: From: Enrique Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F103B201-6CB2-46A1-8A1B-AD06E1918427 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:53:15 -0700 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-F103B201-6CB2-46A1-8A1B-AD06E1918427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +1 IMHO, It seems to me that the marketing department is driving the features l= ist. It would make more sense to create highly specialized applications and then i= mprove the interfaces or links between them. For example, if I'm more of an= editor than a graphic artist I may own PPr and Ps Elements. I'd want these= two apps to talk to each other effectively rather than have either bloated w= ith the functionality of the other. Vice versa, there may be some artists o= ut there with the full Ps that only needs an entry level editor... Mix and m= atch what you like, but don't confuse the market with overlapping features l= ists! Unless, of course, that's what's intended. :( -enrique Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:53 AM, S=C3=B8ren Christensen wr= ote: >=20 > I find quite a few of the cs6 features interesting - especially those fixi= ng bad interfacing from previously poorly added features ;-) > But on first thought i find it pretty awkward with 'imovie-inside-photosho= p' - if the aim is for photographers why not put it in Lightroom instead? >=20 > I also love PS and something breaks inside of me each time some - at least= to me ;-) - bloated consumer features pushes the pro away. > Maybe this is the return of Image Ready for html5 webbanners (adobe edge)?= > What is the strategy? long term one ring to rule them all ? >=20 > In my humble opinion it would make more sense on integrating a timeline-fo= r-editing with gpu acc tools in AE than PS. > Or spending time on making a useable procedural effect workflow, AE style,= instead of the poor implementation in previous PS versions. >=20 > Well, enough grump. > Maybe I get surprised and start edit....in photoshop > (no, it still doesn't feel right) >=20 > S=C3=B8ren >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > |||| DESILENCE STUDIO > |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivity > |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 9963 (mobile) >=20 > |||| SOCIAL > |||| facebook.dslnc.com > |||| twitter.dslnc.com >=20 > |||| SHOWREEL 2012 > |||| http://vimeo.com/dslncstudio/reel >=20 > On 22/03/2012, at 19:17, Robert Leigh wrote: >=20 >> Here's another overview featuring the ubiquitous Scott Kelby. >>=20 >> http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs6 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Robert >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf O= f >> Mike Abbott >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:07 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ________________________________ >>=20 >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf O= f >> Rich Young >> Sent: 22 March 2012 17:16 >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out >>=20 >>=20 >> It seems like a lot stuff, though Adobe's video strategy looks a little >> scattered. Here's a free intro:=20 >> http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-401.htm=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I agree about 'scattered' - and not only video. >>=20 >> Being typically awkward I started watching the above videos in reverse or= der >> - but when he revealed that the oil paint filter was 'easily his No.1 >> favourite new feature in Photoshop CS6' - I really did spill my coffee...= >> And that was the end of that :) >>=20 >>=20 >> Mike A. >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 --Apple-Mail-F103B201-6CB2-46A1-8A1B-AD06E1918427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
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IMHO, = It seems to me that the marketing department is driving the features = list.

It would make more sense to create highly = specialized applications and then improve the interfaces or links between = them.  For example, if I'm more of an editor than a graphic artist I = may own PPr and Ps Elements.  I'd want these two apps to talk to each = other effectively rather than have either bloated with the functionality = of the other.  Vice versa, there may be some artists out there with = the full Ps that only needs an entry level editor... Mix and match what = you like, but don't confuse the market with overlapping features lists=21 =  Unless, of course, that's what's intended. =  :(

-enrique
Sent from my iPad

On Mar = 27, 2012, at 6:53 AM, S=C3=B8ren Christensen <soren=40desilence.net> = wrote:


I find quite a few of the cs6 = features interesting - especially those fixing bad interfacing from = previously poorly added features ;-)
But on first thought i find = it pretty awkward with 'imovie-inside-photoshop' - if the aim is for = photographers why not put it in Lightroom = instead?

I also love PS and something breaks = inside of me each time some - at least to me ;-) - bloated consumer = features pushes the pro away.
Maybe this is the return of Image = Ready for html5 webbanners (adobe edge)?
What is the strategy? = long term one ring to rule them all ?

In my = humble opinion it would make more sense on integrating a = timeline-for-editing with gpu acc tools in AE than PS.
Or = spending time on making a useable procedural effect workflow, AE style, = instead of the poor implementation in previous PS = versions.

Well, enough grump.
Maybe I = get surprised and start edit....in photoshop
(no, it still = doesn't feel = right)

S=C3=B8ren




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Here's another overview featuring the ubiquitous = Scott Kelby.

http://www.photoshopuser.com/= cs6



Robert

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Subject: Re: =5BAE=5D CS6 Photoshop Beta out


It seems = like a lot stuff, though Adobe's video strategy looks a = little
scattered. Here's a free intro:
http://www.vide= o2brain.com/en/products-401.htm


I agree about 'scattered' = - and not only video.

Being typically awkward I started watching = the above videos in reverse order
- but when he revealed that the oil = paint filter was 'easily his No.1
favourite new feature in Photoshop = CS6' - I really did spill my coffee...
And that was the end of that = :)


Mike A.


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