Return-Path: Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4669388 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:07:24 +0200 Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so1579387lag.28 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=MjW5YlV2gekhNC7pchjvYyBSD2nztEYqrULEt2mLPoU=; b=HniUrKM4FTzRTOl0b0FVqUO01ntC1AKKrsrAwFxho8qfuJgm4QEfoOC95HjI6IRAMH ojy9Ts2QCtZgtNZRzt3dHxwafwJiLIIqTfHuU/Fg4EkUorJZySHefy7r88mEt4Vxhv/G K9ASbGDN94Kg8vzNX4Zmb8+Vm6D9TCP+a+h5b2oDDjj7mFKmP0hrLdlZQfGQnpeQGQ6h BeajNOSkdoJa3e3LW0VgWNom+m2Q3Zuy4nDWd11+yF4hL1O8eLE/Q3KjvQ4EmUNTW7vC MIVL25dFollsOnNBaZgkTp/pDxmk5acMcZmWjOU1xIeok0CdzPdi7IXB1HrNkMaCBo5T j1zg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.105.211 with SMTP id go19mr24140339lab.51.1332957990747; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.59.4 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:06:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:06:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out From: Robert Kjettrup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04083f4b89fe0a04bc51771d X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlIBLyayEXzMH+xmWTv+rb/wDaAo0JnSsHzdqJiYuInBE6i/6YKiR52vRFD5kXNxnQO35w5 --f46d04083f4b89fe0a04bc51771d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Photoshop CS6 beta has already after a short week replaced my use of PS CS5 completely, it is seriously the best and most responsive version of PS since CS2. It opens quicker, the interface is nicer, a good overall update of features and it is just fast. Good job Adobe. i was also a bit worried about the movie editing features added, but i was quite surprised about how nice it actually is, much more useful than i thought it would be. Some interface features i hope to see in AE also: The small postion readout when moving layes around, the popup windows to change eg the stroke and fill colors, and the properties panel. For AE and Premiere i would at least expect that they would open a PSD with a cut, and extract the timeline. Now you just have to release the CS6 suites before the beta expires so we can update as fast as possible :-) OT: why is it that photoshop doesn't use the simple uncomplicated standard adobe feature request/but report system? you get redirected to some cluttered social media lookalike photoshop.com.... i really dont hope AE goes this way. Todd? please say no. :-) Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday Mobil: 25 18 95 16 Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk 2012/3/27 S=F8ren Christensen > > and I will definitely be looking forward to that :-) > > Cheers > > > On 27/03/2012, at 20:56, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > > I wish that I could say more right now, but I can't. Stay tuned for a > response as soon as I'm allowed to make it about how Photoshop CS6 relate= s > to our video applications. We'll be talking about the next version of our > video applications very soon---but not soon enough. > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of > Enrique [enrique0210@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:53 AM > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out > > > > +1 > > IMHO, It seems to me that the marketing department is driving the > features list. > > > > It would make more sense to create highly specialized applications and > then improve the interfaces or links between them. For example, if I'm > more of an editor than a graphic artist I may own PPr and Ps Elements. I= 'd > want these two apps to talk to each other effectively rather than have > either bloated with the functionality of the other. Vice versa, there ma= y > be some artists out there with the full Ps that only needs an entry level > editor... Mix and match what you like, but don't confuse the market with > overlapping features lists! Unless, of course, that's what's intended. = :( > > > > -enrique > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:53 AM, S=F8ren Christensen > wrote: > > > > > > I find quite a few of the cs6 features interesting - especially those > fixing bad interfacing from previously poorly added features ;-) > > But on first thought i find it pretty awkward with > 'imovie-inside-photoshop' - if the aim is for photographers why not put i= t > in Lightroom instead? > > > > I also love PS and something breaks inside of me each time some - at > least to me ;-) - bloated consumer features pushes the pro away. > > Maybe this is the return of Image Ready for html5 webbanners (adobe > edge)? > > What is the strategy? long term one ring to rule them all ? > > > > In my humble opinion it would make more sense on integrating a > timeline-for-editing with gpu acc tools in AE than PS. > > Or spending time on making a useable procedural effect workflow, AE > style, instead of the poor implementation in previous PS versions. > > > > Well, enough grump. > > Maybe I get surprised and start edit....in photoshop > > (no, it still doesn't feel right) > > > > S=F8ren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |||| DESILENCE STUDIO > > |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivity > > |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 9963 (mobile) > > > > |||| SOCIAL > > |||| facebook.dslnc.com > > |||| twitter.dslnc.com > > > > |||| SHOWREEL 2012 > > |||| http://vimeo.com/dslncstudio/reel > > > > On 22/03/2012, at 19:17, Robert Leigh wrote: > > > > Here's another overview featuring the ubiquitous Scott Kelby. > > > > http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs6 > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On > Behalf Of > > Mike Abbott > > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:07 PM > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On > Behalf Of > > Rich Young > > Sent: 22 March 2012 17:16 > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out > > > > > > It seems like a lot stuff, though Adobe's video strategy looks a little > > scattered. Here's a free intro: > > http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-401.htm > > > > > > I agree about 'scattered' - and not only video. > > > > Being typically awkward I started watching the above videos in reverse > order > > - but when he revealed that the oil paint filter was 'easily his No.1 > > favourite new feature in Photoshop CS6' - I really did spill my coffee.= .. > > And that was the end of that :) > > > > > > Mike A. > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to ae-list-off@media-motion.tv>> > > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to ae-list-off@media-motion.tv>> > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --f46d04083f4b89fe0a04bc51771d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Photoshop CS6 beta has already after a short week replaced my u= se of PS CS5 completely, it is seriously the best and most responsive versi= on of PS since CS2. It opens quicker, the interface is nicer, a good overal= l update of features and it is just fast. Good job Adobe.=A0
i was also a bit worried about the movie editing features added, but i was = quite surprised about how nice it actually is, much more useful than i thou= ght it would be.
Some interface features i hope to see in A= E also: The small postion readout when moving layes around, the popup windo= ws to change eg the stroke and fill colors, and the properties panel.

For AE and Premiere i would at least expect= that they would open a PSD with a cut, and extract the timeline.

Now you just have to release the CS6 suites bef= ore the beta expires so we can update as fast as possible :-)=A0


OT: why is it that pho= toshop doesn't use the simple uncomplicated standard adobe feature requ= est/but report system? you get redirected to some cluttered social media lo= okalike photoshop.com.... i really dont hope AE goes this way. Todd? please= say no. :-)



<= br>

Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mo= bil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stv= mayday.dk


2012/3/27 S=F8ren Christensen <soren@desilence.net= >

and I will definitely be looking forward to that :-)

Cheers


On 27/03/2012, at 20:56, Todd Kopriva wrote:

> I wish that I could say more right now, but I can't. Stay tuned fo= r a response as soon as I'm allowed to make it about how Photoshop CS6 = relates to our video applications. We'll be talking about the next vers= ion of our video applications very soon---but not soon enough.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Enrique [enrique0210@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:53 AM
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out
>
> +1
> IMHO, It seems to me that the marketing department is driving the feat= ures list.
>
> It would make more sense to create highly specialized applications and= then improve the interfaces or links between them. =A0For example, if I= 9;m more of an editor than a graphic artist I may own PPr and Ps Elements. = =A0I'd want these two apps to talk to each other effectively rather tha= n have either bloated with the functionality of the other. =A0Vice versa, t= here may be some artists out there with the full Ps that only needs an entr= y level editor... Mix and match what you like, but don't confuse the ma= rket with overlapping features lists! =A0Unless, of course, that's what= 's intended. =A0:(
>
> -enrique
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:53 AM, S=F8ren Christensen <soren@desilence.net<mailto:soren@desilence.net>> wrote:
>
>
> I find quite a few of the cs6 features interesting - especially those = fixing bad interfacing from previously poorly added features ;-)
> But on first thought i find it pretty awkward with 'imovie-inside-= photoshop' - if the aim is for photographers why not put it in Lightroo= m instead?
>
> I also love PS and something breaks inside of me each time some - at l= east to me ;-) - bloated consumer features pushes the pro away.
> Maybe this is the return of Image Ready for html5 webbanners (adobe ed= ge)?
> What is the strategy? long term one ring to rule them all ?
>
> In my humble opinion it would make more sense on integrating a timelin= e-for-editing with gpu acc tools in AE than PS.
> Or spending time on making a useable procedural effect workflow, AE st= yle, instead of the poor implementation in previous PS versions.
>
> Well, enough grump.
> Maybe I get surprised and start edit....in photoshop
> (no, it still doesn't feel right)
>
> S=F8ren
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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> On 22/03/2012, at 19:17, Robert Leigh wrote:
>
> Here's another overview featuring the ubiquitous Scott Kelby.
>
> http://= www.photoshopuser.com/cs6
>
>
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
> Mike Abbott
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:07 PM
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
> Rich Young
> Sent: 22 March 2012 17:16
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out
>
>
> It seems like a lot stuff, though Adobe's video strategy looks a l= ittle
> scattered. Here's a free intro:
> http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-401.htm
>
>
> I agree about 'scattered' - and not only video.
>
> Being typically awkward I started watching the above videos in reverse= order
> - but when he revealed that the oil paint filter was 'easily his N= o.1
> favourite new feature in Photoshop CS6' - I really did spill my co= ffee...
> And that was the end of that :)
>
>
> Mike A.
>
>
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