Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.207] (HELO homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4669651 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:38:26 +0200 Received: from homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D511E05C for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:38:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=desilence.net; h=from :mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id; q=dns; s=desilence.net; b=mLxiHrKpvXRtXY FGPa6ZxM3bNBoznbsJhzWVYrh/K9nObjy7n70H1THPTHt/Ch81+IOjdS6gdV30Cw gXOOypuXQ9N/Rz0lQw1I8IclYzkwHi23gFjx1y/cGnyfdyBNPviicp4q/xHa5JzS FFGx+E7VrgxREDh1ko+Gsul1L1C7w= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=desilence.net; h=from :mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id; s=desilence.net; bh=73m17KC4fIADLsWHudFW yJgWVms=; b=g/Kut7UMaLPzjm1X8eh9CKmF2C0D9sfpxxkiRnhfUQJxtfcd0/Iy imIVJDLBf9gXOweRHQT/wAJ3l8rh0J451/VPATrCr2tOjZHVUuNF/n3XyUkBwSpN vIQJRBBlakKulfShXjDDbHaFej8bV62dCg/+MYDyCNyXr7J2CWqxXYM= Received: from [192.168.1.33] (129.Red-83-32-213.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.32.213.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: soren@desilence.net) by homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EA121E00D for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Christensen?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15-332317536 Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:38:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <2E8BBD74-3673-481B-BFFB-B05D3E7984E3@desilence.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-15-332317536 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 After playing half a night with the beta I can only agree - the cs6 = definitely feels like a quality release. The timeline thing however still does not work for me when being used to = AE and other timeline/keyframe toolsets.=20 It is really messy having to jump between the layer window and timeline = window i.e for changing layer order. Features like ram preview is = missing making it difficult to really preview anything in a realistic = way. Like in the pre AE v4 days. The lack of any numeric values view for position, scale, etc doesnt help = either. Keyframing baked in effects and modifications without the = possibility to tweak values afterwards, only the right to delete the = keyframe, completes the frustration. The fps has to be set in the = timeline options panel and not in the document setup. Definitely beta :-) But there are a lot of great stuff too in the release. For me it is a = sure upgrade. Would be great with a public beta for AE too ;-) S=F8ren |||| DESILENCE STUDIO |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivity |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 9963 (mobile) |||| SOCIAL |||| facebook.dslnc.com |||| twitter.dslnc.com |||| SHOWREEL 2012 |||| http://vimeo.com/dslncstudio/reel On 28/03/2012, at 20:06, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > Photoshop CS6 beta has already after a short week replaced my use of = PS CS5 completely, it is seriously the best and most responsive version = of PS since CS2. It opens quicker, the interface is nicer, a good = overall update of features and it is just fast. Good job Adobe.=20 > i was also a bit worried about the movie editing features added, but i = was quite surprised about how nice it actually is, much more useful than = i thought it would be. > Some interface features i hope to see in AE also: The small postion = readout when moving layes around, the popup windows to change eg the = stroke and fill colors, and the properties panel. >=20 > For AE and Premiere i would at least expect that they would open a PSD = with a cut, and extract the timeline. >=20 > Now you just have to release the CS6 suites before the beta expires so = we can update as fast as possible :-)=20 >=20 >=20 > OT: why is it that photoshop doesn't use the simple uncomplicated = standard adobe feature request/but report system? you get redirected to = some cluttered social media lookalike photoshop.com.... i really dont = hope AE goes this way. Todd? please say no. :-) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday > Mobil: 25 18 95 16 > Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk >=20 >=20 > 2012/3/27 S=F8ren Christensen >=20 > and I will definitely be looking forward to that :-) >=20 > Cheers >=20 >=20 > On 27/03/2012, at 20:56, Todd Kopriva wrote: >=20 > > I wish that I could say more right now, but I can't. Stay tuned for = a response as soon as I'm allowed to make it about how Photoshop CS6 = relates to our video applications. We'll be talking about the next = version of our video applications very soon---but not soon enough. > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Enrique [enrique0210@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:53 AM > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out > > > > +1 > > IMHO, It seems to me that the marketing department is driving the = features list. > > > > It would make more sense to create highly specialized applications = and then improve the interfaces or links between them. For example, if = I'm more of an editor than a graphic artist I may own PPr and Ps = Elements. I'd want these two apps to talk to each other effectively = rather than have either bloated with the functionality of the other. = Vice versa, there may be some artists out there with the full Ps that = only needs an entry level editor... Mix and match what you like, but = don't confuse the market with overlapping features lists! Unless, of = course, that's what's intended. :( > > > > -enrique > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:53 AM, S=F8ren Christensen = > wrote: > > > > > > I find quite a few of the cs6 features interesting - especially = those fixing bad interfacing from previously poorly added features ;-) > > But on first thought i find it pretty awkward with = 'imovie-inside-photoshop' - if the aim is for photographers why not put = it in Lightroom instead? > > > > I also love PS and something breaks inside of me each time some - at = least to me ;-) - bloated consumer features pushes the pro away. > > Maybe this is the return of Image Ready for html5 webbanners (adobe = edge)? > > What is the strategy? long term one ring to rule them all ? > > > > In my humble opinion it would make more sense on integrating a = timeline-for-editing with gpu acc tools in AE than PS. > > Or spending time on making a useable procedural effect workflow, AE = style, instead of the poor implementation in previous PS versions. > > > > Well, enough grump. > > Maybe I get surprised and start edit....in photoshop > > (no, it still doesn't feel right) > > > > S=F8ren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |||| DESILENCE STUDIO > > |||| www.dslnc.com - motion & interactivity > > |||| +34 93 268 0953 / +34 61 555 9963 (mobile) > > > > |||| SOCIAL > > |||| facebook.dslnc.com > > |||| twitter.dslnc.com > > > > |||| SHOWREEL 2012 > > |||| http://vimeo.com/dslncstudio/reel > > > > On 22/03/2012, at 19:17, Robert Leigh wrote: > > > > Here's another overview featuring the ubiquitous Scott Kelby. > > > > http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs6 > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of > > Mike Abbott > > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:07 PM > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of > > Rich Young > > Sent: 22 March 2012 17:16 > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out > > > > > > It seems like a lot stuff, though Adobe's video strategy looks a = little > > scattered. 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On 28/03/2012, at 20:06, Robert Kjettrup wrote:

Photoshop CS6 beta has already after a short week replaced my = use of PS CS5 completely, it is seriously the best and most responsive = version of PS since CS2. It opens quicker, the interface is nicer, a = good overall update of features and it is just fast. Good job = Adobe. 
i was also a bit worried about the movie editing features added, but i = was quite surprised about how nice it actually is, much more useful than = i thought it would be.
Some interface features i = hope to see in AE also: The small postion readout when moving layes = around, the popup windows to change eg the stroke and fill colors, and = the properties panel.

For AE and Premiere i would at = least expect that they would open a PSD with a cut, and extract the = timeline.

Now you just = have to release the CS6 suites before the beta expires so we can update = as fast as possible :-) 


OT: = why is it that photoshop doesn't use the simple uncomplicated standard = adobe feature request/but report system? you get redirected to some = cluttered social media lookalike photoshop.com.... i really dont hope = AE goes this way. Todd? please say no. :-)





Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: = 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/3/27 S=F8ren Christensen <soren@desilence.net>
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and I will definitely be looking forward to that :-)

Cheers


On 27/03/2012, at 20:56, Todd Kopriva wrote:

> I wish that I could say more right now, but I can't. Stay tuned for = a response as soon as I'm allowed to make it about how Photoshop CS6 = relates to our video applications. We'll be talking about the next = version of our video applications very soon---but not soon enough.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Enrique [enrique0210@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:53 AM
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out
>
> +1
> IMHO, It seems to me that the marketing department is driving the = features list.
>
> It would make more sense to create highly specialized applications = and then improve the interfaces or links between them.  For = example, if I'm more of an editor than a graphic artist I may own PPr = and Ps Elements.  I'd want these two apps to talk to each other = effectively rather than have either bloated with the functionality of = the other.  Vice versa, there may be some artists out there with = the full Ps that only needs an entry level editor... Mix and match what = you like, but don't confuse the market with overlapping features lists! =  Unless, of course, that's what's intended.  :(
>
> -enrique
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:53 AM, S=F8ren Christensen <soren@desilence.net<mailto:soren@desilence.net>> = wrote:
>
>
> I find quite a few of the cs6 features interesting - especially = those fixing bad interfacing from previously poorly added features = ;-)
> But on first thought i find it pretty awkward with = 'imovie-inside-photoshop' - if the aim is for photographers why not put = it in Lightroom instead?
>
> I also love PS and something breaks inside of me each time some - = at least to me ;-) - bloated consumer features pushes the pro away.
> Maybe this is the return of Image Ready for html5 webbanners (adobe = edge)?
> What is the strategy? long term one ring to rule them all ?
>
> In my humble opinion it would make more sense on integrating a = timeline-for-editing with gpu acc tools in AE than PS.
> Or spending time on making a useable procedural effect workflow, AE = style, instead of the poor implementation in previous PS versions.
>
> Well, enough grump.
> Maybe I get surprised and start edit....in photoshop
> (no, it still doesn't feel right)
>
> S=F8ren
>
>
>
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> On 22/03/2012, at 19:17, Robert Leigh wrote:
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> Here's another overview featuring the ubiquitous Scott Kelby.
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> http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs6
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>
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of
> Mike Abbott
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out
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> ________________________________
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> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of
> Rich Young
> Sent: 22 March 2012 17:16
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 Photoshop Beta out
>
>
> It seems like a lot stuff, though Adobe's video strategy looks a = little
> scattered. Here's a free intro:
> http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-401.htm
>
>
> I agree about 'scattered' - and not only video.
>
> Being typically awkward I started watching the above videos in = reverse order
> - but when he revealed that the oil paint filter was 'easily his = No.1
> favourite new feature in Photoshop CS6' - I really did spill my = coffee...
> And that was the end of that :)
>
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> Mike A.
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