Return-Path: Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4670876 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:18:11 +0200 Received: by bkwq16 with SMTP id q16so2237055bkw.28 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:18:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=If8Wa4BurRpQ9cjMbZS6Sgm/KwfP/O0JU3Pc10olh+U=; b=DSlVh0vV53OV+g7ZWnjmCb2UI1UXAN0ksULtqTTYRc6GLsckrDv3ZFguOxS/xPvlqR Kx9z/n74IGLsH5eht16oHVjKN9pTphgFuqvhCuVXoh5LDj484aeskkaTXZ6dVyMjSpcm XEcK4kFGGWS1kT2lnj0RdhB+XtSxkbLq9GfG5eVL5Kvfx15jynQn7x6F4j2PI64SQXLS mbCAfkhQ5DeJv7U273DgyDxou3GFQhd4qpS+hXxagd3kagi/mxR9kSSCiCL/XF7lSF03 FJIqw+TRgIevcOkKHvOlIIegTD0ZGCcNd3/y+UIY7Fz4tosmGjkiijNBLDFEnOWpouA5 2Hfw== Received: by 10.204.145.81 with SMTP id c17mr14392108bkv.39.1333034309610; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:18:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.50.69 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Byron Nash Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:18:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] 24fps workflow To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151758f8be7f6f3c04bc633cf9 --00151758f8be7f6f3c04bc633cf9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We work a lot in 23.976 all the way from capture to master. We make 29.97i copies for delivery to stations. Once or twice we tried 24p and had trouble getting the shots to play back from FCP through the AJA or Blackmagic cards. It seems to view stuff in a suite it needs to be 23.976, 29.97, or 59.94 (for NTSC places that is). On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:44 PM, wrote: > Thanks for the advice on 3D - as suggested, it turned out that warping in > PS > element by element did the trick > > 24P workflow: Another department is shooting XDCAM HD422 - when they > switch to 23.98 the > full raster (1920x1080) goes down to 1280x720. BUt the frame rate when it > is > brought into FCP says 59.94. I've worked with XDCAM a lot but never at this > frame size and rate. (it seems the camera has to decrease spatial > resolution > to be able to increase temporal resolution (so that it will be a common > multiple of 24 and 60 ?) > > Should the editor be setting her output sequence to XDCAM HD422 720p60 or > 720p24 ? > (I realize this is a question best for the FCP forum on CC, but we were > trying to > figure it out today and this thread popped up) > > The 24p division has already been performed, so it shouldn't matter right ? > If anything she should do the 720p60 since this will accommodate other > frame rates as well > (they are getting footage from a variety of sources). > > thanks > > mike o > > > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:42:31 -0500 > Message-ID: > > Subject: Re: [AE] 24fps workflow > From: Brian Higgins > > --e89a8f9219585a4fba04bc51f859 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 23.976 is amazing if you're dealing with progressive footage. If most of > your footage is legitimately interlaced (ie different info on every field, > not just 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown), then you should stick with 29.97. If > you can easily get back to progressive land, it's really, really great. > Note that you'll want to work at 23.976 and not 24 unless you're going to > film. > > -b > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, McCray, Micheal < > MMcCray@scrippsnetworks.com> wrote: > > > Experts, > > > > Our facility has a video standard of 1080i, 29.97fps. Sometimes we > receive > > footage shot at 23.98 and/or 29.97, edit at 29.97, create graphics at > > 29.97 and output for broadcast at 29.97. We have recently have been doing > > more work for international markets, and had someone create some NTSC as > > well as PAL Blu-Ray discs for us. > > > > We were given an outside recommendation to receive all footage at 24, > edit > > at 24, and create graphics at 24, to be versatile for 29.97 and 25fps > > standards. > > > > Does anyone currently work like this and/or has anyone made a recent > > transition to this workflow. Are there any other considerations in > > switching over other than just setting our projects at 24? I appreciate > > any insight or suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > Micheal McCray > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --00151758f8be7f6f3c04bc633cf9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We work a lot in 23.976 all the way from capture to master. We make 29.97i = copies for delivery to stations. Once or twice we tried 24p and had trouble= getting the shots to play back from FCP through the AJA or Blackmagic card= s. It seems to view stuff in a suite it needs to be 23.976, 29.97, or 59.94= (for NTSC places that is).=A0



On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:44 PM, <mp= o@michaeloreilly.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [AE] 24fps workflow
From: Brian Higgins <higgins@soldesignfx.com>

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23.976 is amazing if you're dealing with progressive footage. =A0If mos= t of
your footage is legitimately interlaced (ie different info on every field,<= br> not just 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown), then you should stick with 29.97. =A0If=
you can easily get back to progressive land, it's really, really great.=
Note that you'll want to work at 23.976 and not 24 unless you're go= ing to
film.

-b

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, McCray, Micheal <
MMcCray@sc= rippsnetworks.com> wrote:

> Experts,
>
> Our facility has a video standard of 1080i, 29.97fps. Sometimes we rec= eive
> footage shot at 23.98 and/or 29.97, edit at 29.97, create graphics at<= br> > 29.97 and output for broadcast at 29.97. We have recently have been do= ing
> more work for international markets, and had someone create some NTSC = as
> well as PAL Blu-Ray discs for us.
>
> We were given an outside recommendation to receive all footage at 24, = edit
> at 24, and create graphics at 24, to be versatile for 29.97 and 25fps<= br> > standards.
>
> Does anyone currently work like this and/or has anyone made= a recent
> transition to this workflow. Are there any other considerations in
> switching over other than just setting our projects at 24? I appreciat= e
> any insight or suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Micheal McCray


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