Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #42759
From: Byron Nash <byronnash@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] 24fps workflow
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:18:09 -0400
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
We work a lot in 23.976 all the way from capture to master. We make 29.97i copies for delivery to stations. Once or twice we tried 24p and had trouble getting the shots to play back from FCP through the AJA or Blackmagic cards. It seems to view stuff in a suite it needs to be 23.976, 29.97, or 59.94 (for NTSC places that is). 



On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:44 PM, <mpo@michaeloreilly.com> wrote:
Thanks for the advice on 3D - as suggested, it turned out that warping in PS
element by element did the trick

24P workflow: Another department is shooting XDCAM HD422 - when they
switch to 23.98 the
full raster (1920x1080) goes down to 1280x720. BUt the frame rate when it is
brought into FCP says 59.94. I've worked with XDCAM a lot but never at this
frame size and rate. (it seems the camera has to decrease spatial resolution
to be able to increase temporal resolution (so that it will be a common
multiple of 24 and 60 ?)

Should the editor be setting her output sequence to XDCAM HD422 720p60 or
720p24 ?
(I realize this is a question best for the FCP forum on CC, but we were
trying to
figure it out today and this thread popped up)

The 24p division has already been performed, so it shouldn't matter right ?
If anything she should do the 720p60 since this will accommodate other
frame rates as well
(they are getting footage from a variety of sources).

thanks

mike o


Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:42:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: [AE] 24fps workflow
From: Brian Higgins <higgins@soldesignfx.com>

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23.976 is amazing if you're dealing with progressive footage.  If most of
your footage is legitimately interlaced (ie different info on every field,
not just 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown), then you should stick with 29.97.  If
you can easily get back to progressive land, it's really, really great.
Note that you'll want to work at 23.976 and not 24 unless you're going to
film.

-b

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, McCray, Micheal <
MMcCray@scrippsnetworks.com> wrote:

> Experts,
>
> Our facility has a video standard of 1080i, 29.97fps. Sometimes we receive
> footage shot at 23.98 and/or 29.97, edit at 29.97, create graphics at
> 29.97 and output for broadcast at 29.97. We have recently have been doing
> more work for international markets, and had someone create some NTSC as
> well as PAL Blu-Ray discs for us.
>
> We were given an outside recommendation to receive all footage at 24, edit
> at 24, and create graphics at 24, to be versatile for 29.97 and 25fps
> standards.
>
> Does anyone currently work like this and/or has anyone made a recent
> transition to this workflow. Are there any other considerations in
> switching over other than just setting our projects at 24? I appreciate
> any insight or suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Micheal McCray


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