Return-Path: Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4676108 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:47:37 +0200 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120404184807.SNCY24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:48:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.6] ([24.205.136.17]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id tuo71i0040Nhw7s05uo7T2; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:48:07 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JYQIUidRAECiNa+jsiaNMIhYElg3H2WoMKCJIGO75f4= c=1 sm=1 a=mEi9-h707p8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=sUr7o2tlPJt/TPdvGcWXtQ==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=3uk2aAWUAAAA:8 a=4d_gdM_Vt9NdofiWGHQA:9 a=_z51U9vdFxzWOrPXw8sA:7 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=G8hwkzEB35gA:10 a=VBYWXaHzlxFFCoIo9ZwA:9 a=Sk6DCqcyjMPckd2-3QsA:7 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=sUr7o2tlPJt/TPdvGcWXtQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-923285146 Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Mac Bootcamp hardware question Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:48:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-9-923285146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 How interesting. I've never heard of using a Mac as a straight PC = running Windows. If you don't mind my asking, why did you make that = choice? Jonathan On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Elliot Steele wrote: > Jonathan, >=20 > I normally boot with the option key but only reboot very few days if = that. >=20 > If you only have the 1 Windows HD then it will boot straight to it. = I=92ve got 6 Mac Pros at the moment & only 1 of them has an OSX system = intalled along with W7. > The other 5 have Windows 7 64 & Windows XP 64 on separate HDs. >=20 > Elliot >=20 >=20 > Am 04/04/2012 20:34 schrieb "Jonathan Penzner" unter = : >=20 > Elliot, >=20 > If you don't need Bootcamp, have Windows on a separate drive, do you = tell the Mac to boot from the Windows Drive via the OPT or is there = another way to start up from that drive? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Jonathan >=20 >=20 > On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Elliot Steele wrote: >=20 > Chris, >=20 > If there are drivers available for the version of Windows you want to = run > (hopefully Windows 7 64 Bit) then any hardware will run fine but = obviously > not under OSX. >=20 > I've probably posted this before but "Bootcamp" isn't necessary to run > Windows on a Mac, in fact you don't even need to have an OSX system > installed at all. As far as Windows is concerned it's just another PC. >=20 > My advice is always install Windows on a separate HD. >=20 > I've been running Windows (& AE) on Mac Pros since 2006 without any = problems > so if you have any other questions just fire away! >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Elliot >=20 >=20 > Am 04/04/2012 20:04 schrieb "Chris Meyer" unter = : >=20 > A lot of you know far more about systems and hardware than I do, so I = wanted > to fact-check the following two statements to try to separate some = myth from > reality about using Bootcamp to run Windows on Mac machines. I'd = appreciate > learning if these statements are true, false, and/or need asterisks = and > qualifications to properly explain: >=20 > - The same hardware will give essentially the same performance on a = Mac > running Bootcamp, or a PC running the same version of Windows. >=20 > - If you cannot use a certain piece of hardware (such as an NVIDIA = Quadro > 6000) in a Mac running MacOS, then you also cannot use that hardware = in a Mac > running Bootcamp. >=20 > thanks in advance - > Chris > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > JONATHAN PENZNER > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >=20 > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | >=20 > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >=20 >=20 JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-9-923285146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
Re: [AE] OT: Mac Bootcamp hardware question
Jonathan,

I normally boot with the option key but only reboot very few days if = that.

If you only have the 1 Windows HD then it will boot straight to it. I=92ve= got 6 Mac Pros at the moment & only 1 of them has an OSX system = intalled along with W7.
The other 5 have Windows 7 64  & Windows XP 64 on separate = HDs.

Elliot


Am 04/04/2012 20:34 schrieb "Jonathan Penzner" unter <sureal@charter.net>:

Elliot,

If you don't need Bootcamp, have Windows on a separate drive, do you = tell the Mac to boot from the Windows Drive via the OPT  or is = there another way to start up from that drive?

Thanks,

Jonathan


On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Elliot Steele wrote:

Chris,

If there are drivers available for the version of Windows you want to = run
(hopefully Windows 7 64 Bit) then any hardware will run fine but = obviously
not under OSX.

I've probably posted this before but "Bootcamp" isn't necessary to = run
Windows on a Mac, in fact you don't even need to have an OSX system
installed at all. As far as Windows is concerned it's just another = PC.

My advice is always install Windows on a separate HD.

I've been running Windows (& AE) on Mac Pros since 2006 without any = problems
so if you have any other questions just fire away!

Cheers

Elliot


Am 04/04/2012 20:04 schrieb "Chris Meyer" unter <chris@crishdesign.com>:<= br>
A lot of you know far more about = systems and hardware than I do, so I wanted
to fact-check the following two statements to try to separate some myth = from
reality about using Bootcamp to run Windows on Mac machines. I'd = appreciate
learning if these statements are true, false, and/or need asterisks = and
qualifications to properly explain:

 - The same hardware will give essentially the same performance on = a Mac
running Bootcamp, or a PC running the same version of Windows.

 - If you cannot use a certain piece of hardware (such as an NVIDIA = Quadro
6000) in a Mac running MacOS, then you also cannot use that hardware in = a Mac
running Bootcamp.

thanks in advance -
Chris
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