Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4678402 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:54:17 +0200 Received: from [10.1.1.22] (71-13-195-18.static.eucl.wi.charter.com [71.13.195.18]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M2bxl-1SWf880a0r-00sp7f; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:54:50 -0400 From: Steve Oakley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D1B5D0C7-A261-4AE8-989C-FCCE60DFCA73" Subject: Re: [AE] ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:54:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:ziYbnhEa7gZVUmnYxRYkb0kp3FWJZNxH8Xzyjz1NInN grTamJftEWIG79XfoCV2uqqUsy3aelOlF2/a2oz9Fwr3sVSJsE L9KBuZPcNGjVTAe28FWwe1W+8VMbtZjjgwhfEMf1JzuLL7erbj lmbQju+teAo25lkVxUK+au7GomNIWKMTRCTkXlCGgqTImYZrpx dd0OfXae33uAc4GXJR2lpCr8FcOs3O0ouuyr9boMRW+GrBUsr0 6zqveZzl2Vr4jPluwLTAMGSXR7s9xseUgAbh5OoKZIYMeTC7XT TqT/TFpOb08MbJYoEInpHAnXQlpXqM23jvA6Ex4sD0pHy/p79H IL0/LxHsDgoCGi0CTfPz9q9dT3RbE7cTbOuQVluJJ4R7c39WgN qDPSZxKQaI6mw== --Apple-Mail=_D1B5D0C7-A261-4AE8-989C-FCCE60DFCA73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 if you want to _seriously_ run resolve, you need dual nV cards. while = the GTX285 still seems to be a strong performer, you can't get it from = apple. there are 480's and 580's on ebay that have been flashed with mac = firmware which seem to work fine, but you can only get them on ebay.... = do you work with a local dealer / VAR ? maybe do the purchase thru them = instead and config the machine the way you want. while resolve does use OpenCL on the ATI cards, its about 1/2 the level = of performance. that means non RT playback once you get past 2 or 3 = nodes... depending on what you are doing. my iMac with ATI GPU runs ok, = but its not anything close to the mac with dual GPU's. Q4000's aren't that expensive, I think $800 or $850 thru apple. the = older QFX4800 was $1600 or so. also don't forget that adobe PP uses CUDA which will make your world = happy. any of these nV cards will work well with PP S On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote: > If it's a Mac Pro, and there are no nVidia options available, get the = cheapest ATI option, then by all means don't get the RAM from Apple, get = it from a third party and put it in yourself. You'll save hundreds of = dollars that you can put towards an nVidia card, replacing the cheap ATI = card. Someone else on the list can probably recommend something cheaper = than the Quadra 4000 that will serve you well. A decent nVidia game card = (GTX 480, GTX 580) will really rock the CUDA, if the Mac Pro supports = it. Sorry if your IT department is inflexible about this... Apple could = certainly make it easier by offering more options. >=20 > Brian >> I'd say spend it on R >>=20 >> AM. Unless you play a lot of video games. RAM is going to give a much = better overall boost to your system & rendering >>=20 >> On Apr 6, 2012 1:45 PM, "Robert Behnke" = wrote: >> My options are ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB or = one ATI Radeon HD 5770.=20 >>=20 >> Or should I spend the money on RAM?=20 >>=20 >> I would like the system to possible work with Resolve or Adobe's new = SpeedGrade (which I do not know that much about).=20 >>=20 >> Of course, I will be running two screens.=20 >>=20 >> Thanks!=20 >>=20 >> =20 >> Robert Behnke >=20 --Apple-Mail=_D1B5D0C7-A261-4AE8-989C-FCCE60DFCA73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 if = you want to _seriously_ run resolve, you need dual nV cards. while the = GTX285 still seems to be a strong performer, you can't get it from = apple. there are 480's and 580's on ebay that have been flashed with mac = firmware which seem to work fine, but you can only get them on ebay.... =  do you work with a local dealer / VAR ? maybe do the purchase thru = them instead and config the machine the way you = want.

while resolve does use OpenCL on the ATI cards, = its about 1/2 the level of performance. that means non RT playback once = you get past 2 or 3 nodes... depending on what you are doing. my iMac = with ATI GPU runs ok, but its not anything close to the mac with dual = GPU's.

Q4000's aren't that expensive, I think = $800 or $850 thru apple. the older QFX4800 was $1600 or = so.

also don't forget that adobe PP uses CUDA = which will make your world happy. any of these  nV cards will work = well with PP

S

On Apr = 6, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote:

If it's a Mac Pro, and = there are no nVidia options available, get the cheapest ATI option, then = by all means don't get the RAM from Apple, get it from a third party and = put it in yourself. You'll save hundreds of dollars that you can put = towards an nVidia card, replacing the cheap ATI card. Someone else on = the list can probably recommend something cheaper than the Quadra 4000 = that will serve you well. A decent nVidia game card (GTX 480, GTX 580) = will really rock the CUDA, if the Mac Pro supports it. Sorry if your IT = department is inflexible about this... Apple could certainly make it = easier by offering more options.

Brian

I'd say = spend it on R

AM. Unless = you play a lot of video games. RAM is going to give a much better = overall boost to your system & rendering

On Apr 6, 2012 1:45 PM, "Robert Behnke" = <robert_behnke@yahoo.com> wrote:
My options are ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI = Radeon HD 5770 1GB or one ATI Radeon HD 5770.

Or should I spend = the money on RAM?

I would like the system to possible work with Resolve or Adobe's new = SpeedGrade (which I do not know that much about).

Of course, I = will be running two screens.

Thanks! =

 
Robert Behnke


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