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[72.88.202.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eg9sm12029498qab.19.2012.04.06.11.59.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Maffitt Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5432CC32-F3B7-4D88-BCD4-E78E75B922C2" Subject: Re: [AE] ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:59:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <3B6FD0C6-E443-4DB7-83CC-CA698EE44455@totaltraining.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlImWygnxe2IIq5B0CFBEhlTvG0mKZHFx3RKGVCGkCbHEGYWlBXFOj6JObzPkg2Shyr762y --Apple-Mail=_5432CC32-F3B7-4D88-BCD4-E78E75B922C2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Another bonus with the q4000 is it runs on a single 6-pin power = connector, and uses a lot less power than previous generation cards. = This means a quieter machine and a savings on electric bills. B > if you want to _seriously_ run resolve, you need dual nV cards. while = the GTX285 still seems to be a strong performer, you can't get it from = apple. there are 480's and 580's on ebay that have been flashed with mac = firmware which seem to work fine, but you can only get them on ebay.... = do you work with a local dealer / VAR ? maybe do the purchase thru them = instead and config the machine the way you want. >=20 > while resolve does use OpenCL on the ATI cards, its about 1/2 the = level of performance. that means non RT playback once you get past 2 or = 3 nodes... depending on what you are doing. my iMac with ATI GPU runs = ok, but its not anything close to the mac with dual GPU's. >=20 > Q4000's aren't that expensive, I think $800 or $850 thru apple. the = older QFX4800 was $1600 or so. >=20 > also don't forget that adobe PP uses CUDA which will make your world = happy. any of these nV cards will work well with PP >=20 > S >=20 > On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote: >=20 >> If it's a Mac Pro, and there are no nVidia options available, get the = cheapest ATI option, then by all means don't get the RAM from Apple, get = it from a third party and put it in yourself. You'll save hundreds of = dollars that you can put towards an nVidia card, replacing the cheap ATI = card. Someone else on the list can probably recommend something cheaper = than the Quadra 4000 that will serve you well. A decent nVidia game card = (GTX 480, GTX 580) will really rock the CUDA, if the Mac Pro supports = it. Sorry if your IT department is inflexible about this... Apple could = certainly make it easier by offering more options. >>=20 >> Brian >>> I'd say spend it on R >>>=20 >>> AM. Unless you play a lot of video games. RAM is going to give a = much better overall boost to your system & rendering >>>=20 >>> On Apr 6, 2012 1:45 PM, "Robert Behnke" = wrote: >>> My options are ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB or = one ATI Radeon HD 5770.=20 >>>=20 >>> Or should I spend the money on RAM?=20 >>>=20 >>> I would like the system to possible work with Resolve or Adobe's new = SpeedGrade (which I do not know that much about).=20 >>>=20 >>> Of course, I will be running two screens.=20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks!=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>> Robert Behnke >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_5432CC32-F3B7-4D88-BCD4-E78E75B922C2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
if you want to _seriously_ run = resolve, you need dual nV cards. while the GTX285 still seems to be a = strong performer, you can't get it from apple. there are 480's and 580's = on ebay that have been flashed with mac firmware which seem to work = fine, but you can only get them on ebay....  do you work with a = local dealer / VAR ? maybe do the purchase thru them instead and config = the machine the way you want.

while resolve does use = OpenCL on the ATI cards, its about 1/2 the level of performance. that = means non RT playback once you get past 2 or 3 nodes... depending on = what you are doing. my iMac with ATI GPU runs ok, but its not anything = close to the mac with dual GPU's.

Q4000's = aren't that expensive, I think $800 or $850 thru apple. the older = QFX4800 was $1600 or so.

also don't forget that = adobe PP uses CUDA which will make your world happy. any of these =  nV cards will work well with = PP

S

On Apr 6, 2012, at = 1:12 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote:

If it's a Mac Pro, and = there are no nVidia options available, get the cheapest ATI option, then = by all means don't get the RAM from Apple, get it from a third party and = put it in yourself. You'll save hundreds of dollars that you can put = towards an nVidia card, replacing the cheap ATI card. Someone else on = the list can probably recommend something cheaper than the Quadra 4000 = that will serve you well. A decent nVidia game card (GTX 480, GTX 580) = will really rock the CUDA, if the Mac Pro supports it. Sorry if your IT = department is inflexible about this... Apple could certainly make it = easier by offering more options.

Brian

I'd say = spend it on R

AM. Unless = you play a lot of video games. RAM is going to give a much better = overall boost to your system & rendering

On Apr 6, 2012 1:45 PM, "Robert Behnke" = <robert_behnke@yahoo.com> wrote:
My options are ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI = Radeon HD 5770 1GB or one ATI Radeon HD 5770.

Or should I spend = the money on RAM?

I would like the system to possible work with Resolve or Adobe's new = SpeedGrade (which I do not know that much about).

Of course, I = will be running two screens.

Thanks! =

 
Robert Behnke
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