Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4678416 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:08:25 +0200 Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so3633076iaj.28 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:08:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=1+dbx0sfbeRIErKYI9OimVpK3KKOrveMIwTgwBMrgn8=; b=QTz4FFJmRDTLWBLSTLecgX0vFUAXJmA6TmUnwVsPTZPksRzpmiUr0PpAdVyH2+zzlS ciXmQPh1kRHrl8KhWpt0PcTc1Xss4MTIm3bodgXxdVmjG/VlJZ0wM2mSQHZ2qABvgGZF MBMsAB2AFiHYUnhwQBEw2NG6qZIGkQidL58MZAxNu3PlrBaeUFtOKSKElFWzQA+MMlWQ I3tXxvmVmWfokdXhbN4JhaR+GBGL67+pnmrZ90mip2yyFX7FwpuwPFqK06bsSV3Neha7 woArFt2zsuEp4YX/0NYz1MikHjHMFOXsOVnxIjHF/PC1hFLDMhMz2PkPUY29oEtaexTS es3g== Received: by 10.50.12.165 with SMTP id z5mr5737092igb.49.1333739337981; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.227] (c-71-63-186-29.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [71.63.186.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cg9sm9377968igb.17.2012.04.06.12.08.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:08:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Carey Dissmore Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A184EFAA-419C-4BE3-A1E4-3FD9AB2EB37F" Subject: Re: [AE] ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:08:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl9/vDLYGdsgELvn8Yin8Ux+851XXKiqdB5FDvstnNXhq/2VgM7XVt8xWFe0qLiSJtq6X6f --Apple-Mail=_A184EFAA-419C-4BE3-A1E4-3FD9AB2EB37F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Don't forget we're giving away THREE Quadro 4000's at the MediaMotion = Ball! http://www.mediamotionball.com carey On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote: > Another bonus with the q4000 is it runs on a single 6-pin power = connector, and uses a lot less power than previous generation cards. = This means a quieter machine and a savings on electric bills. >=20 > B >=20 >> if you want to _seriously_ run resolve, you need dual nV cards. while = the GTX285 still seems to be a strong performer, you can't get it from = apple. there are 480's and 580's on ebay that have been flashed with mac = firmware which seem to work fine, but you can only get them on ebay.... = do you work with a local dealer / VAR ? maybe do the purchase thru them = instead and config the machine the way you want. >>=20 >> while resolve does use OpenCL on the ATI cards, its about 1/2 the = level of performance. that means non RT playback once you get past 2 or = 3 nodes... depending on what you are doing. my iMac with ATI GPU runs = ok, but its not anything close to the mac with dual GPU's. >>=20 >> Q4000's aren't that expensive, I think $800 or $850 thru apple. the = older QFX4800 was $1600 or so. >>=20 >> also don't forget that adobe PP uses CUDA which will make your world = happy. any of these nV cards will work well with PP >>=20 >> S >>=20 >> On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote: >>=20 >>> If it's a Mac Pro, and there are no nVidia options available, get = the cheapest ATI option, then by all means don't get the RAM from Apple, = get it from a third party and put it in yourself. You'll save hundreds = of dollars that you can put towards an nVidia card, replacing the cheap = ATI card. Someone else on the list can probably recommend something = cheaper than the Quadra 4000 that will serve you well. A decent nVidia = game card (GTX 480, GTX 580) will really rock the CUDA, if the Mac Pro = supports it. Sorry if your IT department is inflexible about this... = Apple could certainly make it easier by offering more options. >>>=20 >>> Brian >>>> I'd say spend it on R >>>>=20 >>>> AM. Unless you play a lot of video games. RAM is going to give a = much better overall boost to your system & rendering >>>>=20 >>>> On Apr 6, 2012 1:45 PM, "Robert Behnke" = wrote: >>>> My options are ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB or = one ATI Radeon HD 5770.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Or should I spend the money on RAM?=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I would like the system to possible work with Resolve or Adobe's = new SpeedGrade (which I do not know that much about).=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Of course, I will be running two screens.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks!=20 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>> Robert Behnke >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A184EFAA-419C-4BE3-A1E4-3FD9AB2EB37F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Don't = forget we're giving away THREE Quadro 4000's at the MediaMotion = Ball!


carey

On Apr 6, 2012, = at 1:59 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote:

Another bonus with the q4000 is = it runs on a single 6-pin power connector, and uses a lot less power = than previous generation cards. This means a quieter machine and a = savings on electric bills.

B

if you want to _seriously_ run = resolve, you need dual nV cards. while the GTX285 still seems to be a = strong performer, you can't get it from apple. there are 480's and 580's = on ebay that have been flashed with mac firmware which seem to work = fine, but you can only get them on ebay....  do you work with a = local dealer / VAR ? maybe do the purchase thru them instead and config = the machine the way you want.

while resolve does use = OpenCL on the ATI cards, its about 1/2 the level of performance. that = means non RT playback once you get past 2 or 3 nodes... depending on = what you are doing. my iMac with ATI GPU runs ok, but its not anything = close to the mac with dual GPU's.

Q4000's = aren't that expensive, I think $800 or $850 thru apple. the older = QFX4800 was $1600 or so.

also don't forget that = adobe PP uses CUDA which will make your world happy. any of these =  nV cards will work well with = PP

S

On Apr 6, 2012, at = 1:12 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote:

If it's a Mac Pro, and = there are no nVidia options available, get the cheapest ATI option, then = by all means don't get the RAM from Apple, get it from a third party and = put it in yourself. You'll save hundreds of dollars that you can put = towards an nVidia card, replacing the cheap ATI card. Someone else on = the list can probably recommend something cheaper than the Quadra 4000 = that will serve you well. A decent nVidia game card (GTX 480, GTX 580) = will really rock the CUDA, if the Mac Pro supports it. Sorry if your IT = department is inflexible about this... Apple could certainly make it = easier by offering more options.

Brian

I'd say = spend it on R

AM. Unless = you play a lot of video games. RAM is going to give a much better = overall boost to your system & rendering

On Apr 6, 2012 1:45 PM, "Robert Behnke" = <robert_behnke@yahoo.com> wrote:
My options are ATI Radeon HD 5870 vs two ATI = Radeon HD 5770 1GB or one ATI Radeon HD 5770.

Or should I spend = the money on RAM?

I would like the system to possible work with Resolve or Adobe's new = SpeedGrade (which I do not know that much about).

Of course, I = will be running two screens.

Thanks! =

 
Robert Behnke
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