Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4684912 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:41:53 +0200 Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB88A7143D for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17215 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2012 16:42:39 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 13373, pid: 16938, t: 0.4916s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.125]) (albion@[67.185.28.214]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Apr 2012 16:42:39 -0000 From: James Culbertson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--454129787 Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:42:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <958B3614-F79E-4448-B5DD-1C24E8EE1A5E@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail7.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 --Apple-Mail-10--454129787 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Sounds like the price for a better quality configured PC is still in = line with the cost of a similarly equipped Mac. Sounds like it is = primarily an issue of making sure you get components that work well = together. I wouldn't be opposed to using properly configured PC as long = as I could avoid Windows and put OSX on it. Perhaps that will be an = option in the future. James On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:30 AM, John Morgan wrote: > Not denying Jim=92s experience but I do need to ask if he=92s tried a = workstation class machine such as the HP Z800 configured with adequate = RAM and proper graphics card. Somewhere above the discussion of mac v = pc and making a purchase based on price, there is a realm of higher = quality/better components in a workstation that don=92t offer any of the = downside things Jim has experienced. Mine=92s a dual processor quad = core Xeon w/24GB RAM. Never a hiccup in 2+ years. RAM previews and = complex renders are as good today as day one. > =20 > John > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Teddy Gage > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:16 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE > =20 > How are ram previews and rendering more complex on pc? AE is the same = program on both OSes. >=20 > On Apr 13, 2012 12:07 PM, "Jim Lang" wrote: > Unfortunately, every time I have believed the pcs are ok spin, and > bought one, I've been burned. At work, they go down more, are > convoluted to maintain, and the problems like ram previews and even > rendering complex projects become insurmountable, so forgive me if I > sound like a Mac nut, it's not that I love Apple, it's a matter of > survival. >=20 > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Rob Birnholz > wrote: > > FWIW, I don't have as much bias against Windows as some people = think.> >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 > This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the = addressee and may contain information that is privileged and = confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. = If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are = hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution = or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this = communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and = delete this e-mail and any attachments from your system. =AD=AD =20 --Apple-Mail-10--454129787 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
Not denying Jim=92s experience but I do need to ask = if he=92s tried a workstation class machine such as the HP Z800 = configured with adequate RAM and proper graphics card.  Somewhere = above the discussion of mac v pc and making a purchase based on price, = there is a realm of higher quality/better components in a workstation = that don=92t offer any of the downside things Jim has experienced.  = Mine=92s a dual processor quad core Xeon w/24GB RAM. Never a hiccup in = 2+ years. RAM previews and complex renders are as good today as day = one.
 
John
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How are ram previews and = rendering more complex on pc? AE is the same program on both = OSes.

On Apr 13, 2012 12:07 PM, "Jim Lang" = <james.c.lang@gmail.com> = wrote:
Unfortunately, every time I have = believed the pcs are ok spin, and
bought one, I've been burned. =  At work, they go down more, are
convoluted to maintain, and the = problems like ram previews and even
rendering complex projects become = insurmountable, so forgive me if I
sound like a Mac nut, it's not = that I love Apple, it's a matter of
survival.

On Wed, Apr 11, = 2012 at 8:17 PM, Rob Birnholz
<absolutemotion@birnholz.com> = wrote:
> FWIW, I don't have as much bias against Windows as some = people think.>

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