Return-Path: Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.9] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4685399 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:31:21 +0200 Received: from EDITINGPC ([unknown] [71.188.126.204]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M2G00BWH49JNO62@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <5524AE8CB71B4F54851FA19B403C72A8@EDITINGPC> From: "Glenn Ferguson" To: "After Effects Mail List" References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:31:04 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01CD19BC.BAE75040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01CD19BC.BAE75040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] iMac and AEWhile it is certainly my opinion, I believe it is a = well founded one. I use PCs because price and choice are important to = me, and while anything you can do on one you can do on the other, I find = that OSX is superior in design, implementation, functionality, and = usability. Yet, I use PCs. =20 I think the comparisons are proper. Most people are not building home = PCs or Hackintoshes. I used to, but I have no time for it now and if I = were going to spend the money that a PC workstation would cost, I would = opt for a Mac instead. But then, all of this is subjective opinion = anyway, is it not? From: Elliot Steele=20 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:06 PM To: After Effects Mail List=20 Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE Glenn, that's purely your subjective opinion. I really don't get this fascination with the operating system. How much = time are you chaps spending "outside" of the programs you are using to = earn money? I have a mixture of systems running Windows 7 & OSX, not because I = prefer either of them but because certain software either runs better or = doesn't run at all under a certain OS. Horses for courses. If you really have to compare systems then do it properly: A home-build PC should be compared to a home-build Hackintosh. Here the = prices are identical because the hardware is identical. Teddys' 3930K i7 = could just as easily run OSX. A MacPro should be compared to a PC workstation from a "brand name" such = as Dell/HP/Boxx etc. Here the Mac is (or was - who knows what the next = MP will bring!) cheaper but has fewer video options, less RAM slots etc. Elliot Am 14/04/2012 02:49 schrieb "Glenn Ferguson" unter = : ... you won't find a better operating system than OSX. From: Stephen van Vuuren =20 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:59 PM To: After Effects Mail List =20 Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE > That's my point. If price and choice are important to you, get a = PC. If support, warranty, and build quality is important to you, get a = Mac. My point is that you can't compare "PC" vs. a "Mac". Mac is a specific = brand by a single company. "PC" refers to a broad huge spectrum of = companies. In fact a "Mac" is a PC that runs OSX. Same CPU, RAM, = motherboard etc. Just a bit of firmware in the EFI boot. =20 You can PCs with better support, warranty and build quality than a = Mac, but it will cost the same or more than a Mac. There are ultra-high = premium PCs with custom paint jobs, hand built components and white = glove service, for a price. =20 stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.sv2studios.com/ =20 http://www.outsideinthemovie.com/ =20 http://www.stephenv2.me/ =20 A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind = the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01CD19BC.BAE75040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] iMac and AE
While it is certainly my opinion, I believe it = is a well=20 founded one.  I use PCs because price and choice are important = to=20 me, and while anything you can do on one you can do on the=20 other, I find that OSX is superior in design, implementation,=20 functionality, and usability.  Yet, I use PCs. 
 
I think the comparisons are proper.  Most = people=20 are not building home PCs or Hackintoshes.  I used to, but I have = no time=20 for it now and if I were going to spend the money that a PC workstation = would=20 cost, I would opt for a Mac instead.  But then, all of this is=20 subjective opinion anyway, is it not?

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE

Glenn, that=92s purely your subjective = opinion.

I=20 really don=92t get this fascination with the operating system. How much = time are=20 you chaps spending =93outside=94 of the programs you are using to earn=20 money?

I have a mixture of systems running Windows 7 & OSX, = not=20 because I prefer either of them but because certain software either runs = better=20 or doesn=92t run at all under a certain OS. Horses for = courses.

If you=20 really have to compare systems then do it properly:

A = home-build=20 PC should be compared to a home-build Hackintosh. Here the prices are = identical=20 because the hardware is identical. Teddys=92 3930K i7 could just as = easily run=20 OSX.

A MacPro should be compared to a PC workstation from a = =93brand name=94=20 such as Dell/HP/Boxx etc. Here the Mac is (or was =96 who knows what the = next MP=20 will bring!) cheaper but has fewer video options, less RAM slots=20 etc.

Elliot


Am 14/04/2012 02:49 schrieb "Glenn = Ferguson" unter=20 <ferguson.design@verizon.net>:=

... you won't find a better operating system = than=20 OSX.

From: Stephen van Vuuren <mailto:stephen@sv2studios.com&= gt;=20  
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:59 PM
To: = After=20 Effects Mail List <mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv>=20  
Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE

> = That's my=20 point.  If price and choice are important to you, get a PC. =  If=20 support, warranty, and build quality is important to you, get a=20 Mac.

My point=20 is that you can=92t compare =93PC=94 vs. a =93Mac=94. Mac is a = specific brand by a=20 single company. =93PC=94 refers to a broad huge spectrum of companies. = In fact a=20 =93Mac=94 is a PC that runs OSX. Same CPU, RAM, motherboard etc. Just = a bit of=20 firmware in the EFI boot.
 
You can PCs with better = support,=20 warranty and build quality than a Mac, but it will cost the same or = more than=20 a Mac. There are ultra-high premium PCs with custom paint jobs, hand = built=20 components and white glove service, for a=20 price.
 

stephen van=20 vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.sv2studios.com/ = <http://www.sv2studios.com/> =
http://www.outsideinthemovie.c= om/=20 <http://www.outsideinthemovie.c= om/>=20
http://www.stephenv2.me/ = <http://www.stephenv2.me/>=20

A film is =96 or should be = =96 more like=20 music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and = feelings. The=20 theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes=20 later.
=96Stanley = Kubrick


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