Return-Path: Received: from omr14.networksolutionsemail.com ([205.178.146.64] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4685418 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:49:35 +0200 Received: from cm-omr8 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3E1oLix001641 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:50:21 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr8 smtp.user=chris@chriszwar.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: chris@chriszwar.com Received: from [58.104.24.187] ([58.104.24.187:55373] helo=[10.1.1.5]) by cm-omr8 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id E9/A6-17184-CD7D88F4; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:50:21 -0400 From: Chris Zwar Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--421267119 Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:50:18 +1000 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-6--421267119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 14/04/2012, at 2:30 AM, John Morgan wrote: > Not denying Jim=92s experience but I do need to ask if he=92s tried a = workstation class machine such as the HP Z800 configured with adequate = RAM and proper graphics card. Somewhere above the discussion of mac v = pc and making a purchase based on price, there is a realm of higher = quality/better components in a workstation that don=92t offer any of the = downside things Jim has experienced. Yes, even as something as simple as a fluctuation in power can expose = the difference between a more expensive workstation and a cheap PC. I = can recall many times when the power in the building has surged (eg = during a storm), and all the cheap PCs have rebooted but all the Macs = have stayed up - I'd suggest that the crappy power supply is the biggest = liability in a budget PC rig. But obviously not all windows machines = are cheap and nasty. One company I worked at (many years ago!) used = Alienware PCs as workstations, they were rock solid and beautifully = engineered inside, but they weren't cheaper than a Mac. The HP = workstations are really nice. But once you're up and running After Effects - or any Adobe software - = you really can't tell what OS you're on and it doesn't make much = difference. It's when you run software that isn't cross-platform that = you have issues. Post-houses that rely on Final Cut will be stuck with = Apple, those that rely on 3D Studio Max will be stuck on Windows. At = least Maya and Nuke give you the luxury of choice... -Chris= --Apple-Mail-6--421267119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

On 14/04/2012, at 2:30 AM, John Morgan = wrote:

Not denying Jim=92s experience but I do need to ask = if he=92s tried a workstation class machine such as the HP Z800 = configured with adequate RAM and proper graphics card. Somewhere = above the discussion of mac v pc and making a purchase based on price, = there is a realm of higher quality/better components in a workstation = that don=92t offer any of the downside things Jim has = experienced.

Ye= s, even as something as simple as a fluctuation in power can expose the = difference between a more expensive workstation and a cheap PC. I = can recall many times when the power in the building has surged (eg = during a storm), and all the cheap PCs have rebooted but all the Macs = have stayed up - I'd suggest that the crappy power supply is the = biggest liability in a budget PC rig. But obviously not all = windows machines are cheap and nasty. One company I worked at = (many years ago!) used Alienware PCs as workstations, they were rock = solid and beautifully engineered inside, but they weren't cheaper than a = Mac. The HP workstations are really = nice.

But once you're up and running After = Effects - or any Adobe software - you really can't tell what OS you're = on and it doesn't make much difference. It's when you run software = that isn't cross-platform that you have issues. Post-houses that = rely on Final Cut will be stuck with Apple, those that rely on 3D Studio = Max will be stuck on Windows. At least Maya and Nuke give you the = luxury of = choice...

-Chris

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