Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv — Message #43023
From: glinkar@comcast.net <glinkar@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:59:33 -0500
To: Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com>, After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>


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From: "Chris Meyer" <chris@crishdesign.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2012 11:38 am
Subject: [AE] iMac and AE
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>

That's the two edged sword, isn't it? You can spend less on a PC than on a Mac, but then it might not be as stable/reliable (unless you really know what you're doing, and configure your own). You can get a PC that's as stable and faster than a Mac…but now you're spending similar money again. What was that formula…faster/cheaper/better, pick any 2?

Seriously, though, the big deficit on the MacPro side is graphic card assortment (and # of cores, and max RAM, but you'll hit your head on the GPU ceiling first). The Apple Store offering only two flavors of ATI compared to the long list HP offers for the Z820 is criminal enough; then when you move onto the CUDA requirement to get good speed out of ray tracing in CS6, and look at the list of approved cards on the PC vs. Mac, and as a Mac user I want to cry.

Regardless, the advice to "just get a Mac" or "just get a PC" does discount huge chunks of a person's relationship to their computer, in terms of software (and hardware) investment, OS familiarity, and other intangibles. It's like blithely telling someone to change their religion to get a better assortment of holidays (smile).

- Chris



On Apr 13, 2012, at 10:30 AM, John Morgan wrote:

> Not denying Jim’s experience but I do need to ask if he’s tried a workstation class machine such as the HP Z800 configured with adequate RAM and proper graphics card.  Somewhere above the discussion of mac v pc and making a purchase based on price, there is a realm of higher quality/better components in a workstation that don’t offer any of the downside things Jim has experienced.  Mine’s a dual processor quad core Xeon w/24GB RAM. Never a hiccup in 2+ years. RAM previews and complex renders are as good today as day one.
>  
> John
>  
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Teddy Gage
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:16 AM
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] iMac and AE
>  
> How are ram previews and rendering more complex on pc? AE is the same program on both OSes.
>
> On Apr 13, 2012 12:07 PM, "Jim Lang" <james.c.lang@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, every time I have believed the pcs are ok spin, and
> bought one, I've been burned.  At work, they go down more, are
> convoluted to maintain, and the problems like ram previews and even
> rendering complex projects become insurmountable, so forgive me if I
> sound like a Mac nut, it's not that I love Apple, it's a matter of
> survival.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Rob Birnholz
> <absolutemotion@birnholz.com> wrote:
> > FWIW, I don't have as much bias against Windows as some people think.>
>
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