Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4688538 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 22:12:43 +0200 Received: (qmail 16746 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2012 20:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (173.247.4.230) by smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.47) with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2012 20:13:35 -0000 Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] selling rights to use a video of mine References: From: Greg Balint Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-08E830FE-D28D-4D47-A8B2-083954081E9B X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:13:51 -0400 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-08E830FE-D28D-4D47-A8B2-083954081E9B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think they'll be using it for unique footage to show on a cell phone that s= omeone is holding. That's the gist of what they described. It's not like ful= l screen or main character, just something to show that a user watched a vid= eo on their phone.=20 $1000 would be about right for this, as I had worked about a day and a half o= n it.=20 I think they are basically just wanting some nice content to show instead of= stock footage, and instead of just stealing it, they are trying to do the r= ight thing by contacting me.=20 I told them I'd write up the agreement if they didn't already have a standar= d one they use. I'm sort of literate in legalese so I can Understand if they= were trying to rip me off or something. I already told them if it were to h= appen that I would retain all ownership and it would be non-exclusive and I'= d be able to use it however I want still.=20 We'll see what they say. I researched the person and the company and everyth= ing seems legit.=20 ////Greg Balint ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer delRAZOR.com/ On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Gary Berendsen wrote: > A grand? > How much work was it? > Is 2 days average rate here in the netherlands as a freelancer (with 3+ ye= ars experience), how much work was it? >=20 > Local US attorney won't matter, waste of money if you go that way. No EU/G= E experience is wasting cash. >=20 > Just ask what they want they want to do with it and talk to them. > Ask how it gets used, how they found you, ask the phone number of the dire= ctor that is doing the commercial. > Ask for creds for any award. >=20 > Must be some german listers that can help. >=20 > What is US law on getting paid in stuff tax wise. > Flight to germany etc for free, coordinate etc. >=20 > so many options, >=20 > Gary Berendsen - VFX Generalist > @DuintjerCS Kamer 1.009 > Vijzelstraat 72 > 1017 HL Amsterdam > gary@garyberendsen.com > mob:+31 6 1438 5398 > http://garyberendsen.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: >=20 >> I would say proceed with caution with the standard caveats. Make sure wha= tever they send for payment is legitimate and keep track of what you get pai= d at least for IRS fun stuff. Always Cover Your Ass ;). >>=20 >> -Rob >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Greg Balint wrote: >> Hey everyone. >>=20 >> Quick question about selling rights to an animation I produced. >>=20 >> The animation in question is here: >> http://vimeo.com/7049421 >>=20 >> I created the animation to submit to the Greyscale Gorilla 5 second proje= cts contest. It was just a fun little thing I made and I won the contest. I= own the rights to everything in the video except for the music select. >>=20 >> I was just approached by a German production company creating a commercia= l for VODAFONE. They are requesting to license the rights to use the 5 seco= nds of footage for 1 year for all media in Germany. They've offered 1000=E2= =82=AC for the rights. >>=20 >> I received this message through Vimeo's message system, not directly. >>=20 >> I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever had the experience of doin= g this and if there's anything I should be cautious about. >>=20 >> I'm flattered that this video I've created is being considered for use li= ke this. Especially since it was just a little fun project to make on a whim= . And $1,300 USD out of nowhere, for something I never expected to get pai= d for, definitely sounds great to me. >>=20 >> Let me know your thoughts. >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >> ////Greg Balint >> ///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >> delRAZOR.com/ >> =20 >> --=20 >> Robert Houghton | Motion Graphics Designer >> www.houghtonmedia.com >> ph. 503.347.2234 >> email. rob@houghtonmedia.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-08E830FE-D28D-4D47-A8B2-083954081E9B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I think they'll be using i= t for unique footage to show on a cell phone that someone is holding. That's= the gist of what they described. It's not like full screen or main characte= r, just something to show that a user watched a video on their phone. <= /div>

$1000 would be about right for this, as I had worke= d about a day and a half on it. 

I think they a= re basically just wanting some nice content to show instead of stock footage= , and instead of just stealing it, they are trying to do the right thing by c= ontacting me. 

I told them I'd write up the ag= reement if they didn't already have a standard one they use. I'm sort of lit= erate in legalese so I can Understand if they were trying to rip me off or s= omething.  I already told them if it were to happen that I would retain= all ownership and it would be non-exclusive and I'd be able to use it howev= er I want still. 

We'll see what they say. I r= esearched the person and the company and everything seems legit. 
////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
<= a href=3D"http://delRAZOR.com/">delRAZOR.com/

On Apr= 17, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Gary Berendsen <gary@garyberendsen.com> wrote:

A grand?
How much work was it?
Is 2 d= ays average rate here in the netherlands as a freelancer (with 3+ years expe= rience), how much work was it?

Local US attorney wo= n't matter, waste of money if you go that way. No EU/GE experience is wastin= g cash.

Just ask what they want they want to do wit= h it and talk to them.
Ask how it gets used, how they found you, a= sk the phone number of the director that is doing the commercial.
= Ask for creds for any award.

Must be some german li= sters that can help.

What is US law on getting paid= in stuff tax wise.
Flight to germany etc for free, coordinate etc= .

so many options,

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Gary Berendsen - VFX Generalist
  @= DuintjerCS Kamer 1.009
  Vijzelstraat 72
  1017 HL Amsterdam<= /span>
 <= a href=3D"mailto:gary@garyberendsen.com">gary@garyberendsen.com
  mob:= +31 6 1438 5398





On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Robert Houghton wrote:

I would say pro= ceed with caution with the standard caveats. Make sure whatever they send fo= r payment is legitimate and keep track of what you get paid at least for IRS= fun stuff. Always Cover Your Ass ;).

  -Rob
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, G= reg Balint <greg@d= elrazor.com> wrote:
Hey everyone.

Quick question about selling rights to an animation I produced.

The animation in question is here:
http://vimeo.com/7049= 421

I created the animation to submit to the Greyscale Gorilla 5 second projects= contest. It was just a fun little thing I made and I won the contest.  = ;I own the rights to everything in the video except for the music select.
I was just approached by a German production company creating a commercial f= or VODAFONE.  They are requesting to license the rights to use the 5 se= conds of footage for 1 year for all media in Germany.  They've offered 1= 000=E2=82=AC for the rights.

I received this message through Vimeo's message system, not directly.

I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever had the experience of doing t= his and if there's anything I should be cautious about.

I'm flattered that this video I've created is being considered for use like t= his. Especially since it was just a little fun project to make on a whim. &n= bsp; And $1,300 USD out of nowhere, for something I never expected to get pa= id for, definitely sounds great to me.

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks!

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
delRAZOR.com/
&nbs= p;
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Robert Houghton | Motion Graphics Designer
www.houghtonmedia.com
ph. 503.347.223= 4
email. rob@houghtonmedia.com

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