Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4694240 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:37:52 +0200 Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3NJcn0g030254 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:38:49 -0400 Received: from lunette.home (pool-108-23-214-125.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.214.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6DB81E000083; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 upgrade paths Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_664C7897-16EB-4441-829E-7BF041C28125" From: Tim Sassoon In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:38:47 -0700 Cc: Tim Sassoon Message-Id: <4EBB4874-D5B5-4A95-984A-9A2726CE108C@aol.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335209929; bh=qgGNu8orN7VA0S1B7MzMCQ23XBe79+mWhqsEah5ousU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yJJgiHORp8iEqyB4bSDw9YQltHh7BgKgat80pucCObjRwjAQgsgV1/Yu/kOKuTYha RMhYOoUtTNxB1UmRBsc4tnR3HGw2IBrrL9w3aLpV+1Go3eCfGqC6a+2fORyvGixD41 Ghpld3DkLcwwHhq7rVadUD/IHBuorLOptpEefwRM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:457784032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 5 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29034f95afc837a6 X-AOL-IP: 108.23.214.125 --Apple-Mail=_664C7897-16EB-4441-829E-7BF041C28125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just watched what I could of the launch stream. Seems like CC acts more = like DropBox than iCloud (thank goodness!), though it seems as time goes = by, OS and app makers seem ever more scornful of project tracking, = management and organization. There's almost nothing anyone could tell = about our work by looking at a thumbnail gallery, while naming and = versioning is incredibly important. I'd also want to know if artists = could be locked out of the gallery spaces or posting links - seriously, = the bigger the job, the more likely it is we could lose it over = something like that. Some clients would really prefer that we lock out = all USB and FW peripherals and just about strip-search the artists as = they come and go. Last year some knucklehead freelancer took a = screenshot with his phone and posted it to Facebook. Oh, man, that was = hell, walking it back. Tim Sassoon SFD Santa Monica, CA On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Tsassoon wrote: > One should probably buy one full license and cloud the rest. And what = website? It seems like Adobe has hundreds of product pages each with = partial information, so you never know what's definitive and complete. I = only ever go about three levels in before I give up and go elsewhere. = The CC product page doesn't tell me anything except make me afraid for = how work is going to be organized, files are named and versioned, etc. >=20 >=20 > Tim Sassoon > SFD > Santa Monica, CA >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:15 AM, James Culbertson = wrote: >=20 >> One issue with cloud licencing I see is that someday you will want to = retire, and so at that point you either need to buy the full license or = give up your old projects entirely. >>=20 >> Or maybe Adobe will develop a deal where we get to be grandfathered = in (so to speak). :-) >>=20 >> James >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Darren Marshall wrote: >>=20 >>> Not sure whether I am grasping the new Adobe upgrade path options = fully, can someone explain the benefits of signing up to creative cloud = (special intro offer =A327.34 a month) where it states that all CS6 apps = plus additional cloud based apps can be downloaded and used, as opposed = to the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade offer where they send CS6 as a complimentary = upgrade? >>> If all the apps are available for =A327.34 then =A346.88 (after = first year) a month then surely that is a much more cost effective = option working on the basis that there will be a CS upgrade at least = once a year? >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> Darren >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> -- >>> Darren Marshall >>> DazPix >>> Design / Motion Graphics / Creative Direction / VFX / Production = Services >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> hello@dazpix.co.uk >>> http://dazpix.co.uk >>>=20 >>> DAZPIX ON TWITTER >>> DAZPIX FACEBOOK PAGE >>> DAZPIX GOOGLE+ PAGE >>> DAZPIX BLOG >>>=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_664C7897-16EB-4441-829E-7BF041C28125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Just = watched what I could of the launch stream. Seems like CC acts more like = DropBox than iCloud (thank goodness!), though it seems as time goes by, = OS and app makers seem ever more scornful of project tracking, = management and organization. There's almost nothing anyone could tell = about our work by looking at a thumbnail gallery, while naming and = versioning is incredibly important. I'd also want to know if artists = could be locked out of the gallery spaces or posting links - seriously, = the bigger the job, the more likely it is we could lose it over = something like that. Some clients would really prefer that we lock out = all USB and FW peripherals and just about strip-search the artists as = they come and go. Last year some knucklehead freelancer took a = screenshot with his phone and posted it to Facebook. Oh, man, that was = hell, walking it back.


Tim = Sassoon
SFD
Santa Monica, = CA



On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Tsassoon wrote:

One should probably buy one full license and = cloud the rest. And what website? It seems like Adobe has hundreds of = product pages each with partial information, so you never know what's = definitive and complete. I only ever go about three levels in before I = give up and go elsewhere. The CC product page doesn't tell me anything = except make me afraid for how work is going to be organized, files are = named and versioned, etc.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Santa = Monica, CA

Sent from my = iPhone



On Apr 23, = 2012, at 10:15 AM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net> = wrote:

One = issue with cloud licencing I see is that someday you will want to = retire, and so at that point you either need to buy the full license or = give up your old projects entirely.

Or maybe = Adobe will develop a deal where we get to be grandfathered in (so to = speak). =  :-)

James


On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Darren Marshall wrote:

Not sure whether I am grasping the new Adobe upgrade path = options fully, can someone explain the benefits of signing up to = creative cloud (special intro offer =A327.34 a month) where it states = that all CS6 apps plus additional cloud based apps can be downloaded and = used, as opposed to the CS5 to CS5.5 upgrade offer where they send CS6 = as a complimentary upgrade?
If all the apps are available for =A327.34 then =A346.88 (after first = year) a month then surely that is a much more cost effective option = working on the basis that there will be a CS upgrade at least once a = year?

Best,
Darren

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Darren = Marshall
DazPix
Design / Motion Graphics / Creative Direction / = VFX / Production Services

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