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Subject: Re: [AE] OT: RED workflow
From: Jack Tunnicliffe <jack@javapost.ca>
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:20:52 -0600
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We do lots of Red projects and do colour correction in Davinci Resolve. =
It handles it very elegantly and playback is real time at 1/4 to 1/2 =
resolution and when you consider you are working with a 4 or 5K image, =
this looks just fine, even projected. I get realtime playback with Red =
at these settings with stereo audio and several nodes of correction. =
I've done two seasons of a television series with Red Mysterium that has =
40 days of shooting and am just about to do a feature using Epic =
footage. In Davinci you can use the HDR frame for extra dynamic range =
when you need it in Resolve.=20

FCP does not play Red or work with Red natively. It needs a QT =
container. I don't do this part of it as we have assistant editors who =
set up the projects. I know it was a bit messy at first to match-back to =
Red from a ProRes edit of the dailies, but after a few tries they had =
all of this nailed. I can get you more information if desired on this =
part of the process but everyone is gone for the day, at this point.=20

Color works fairly well with Red footage but after real time in Resolve =
there's really no going back to Color and correcting on still frames. =
Also secondaries don't qualify properly on Red footage in Color. As this =
was implemented late in Color's life cycle it doesn't work as well as it =
should. When you try and qualify a green lawn for instance, Color can =
only qualify some of the pixels and seems to be looking at the raw file =
rather than looking at the image after the Red tab. In Davinci Resolve =
all qualifiers work the way they should.=20

We used Red Rocket to pull our dailies. The time difference is about 7X =
a standard CPU. We do all this on Mac Pros and not laptops. I do run =
Resolve on my MacBookPro but only to look at shots on location or at =
home and not to do real work. I think I'd be too frustrated by the speed =
difference. Probably still be faster than Color on a MacPro, though.=20

Best to run a Cuda card for Resolve to get real time performance. GTX =
285's are really cheap and give even better performance than the Quadro =
4000's for some reason with Resolve. We have both cards here and the =
285's are faster for some reason. Of course the Cuda cards are now a =
real asset for AE CS6 if you are doing 3D.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
www.javapost.ca


On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

> I'm wondering what tools people are using with Red these days.=20
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> We recently did a project and decided to do all our Red color =
correction in our Smoke suite.=20
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> We ended up with a huge bottle neck so now I'm looking into =
alternatives that would allow use to use our Mac workstations to color =
correct or Red projects.
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> Does Resolve on the Mac work well with Red footage? How about FCP / =
Color?
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> Would it help workflow if we had Red Rocket in some of our boxes?
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> Any thoughts?
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> Thanks.=20
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> Phil
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> Phil Spitler
> www.bonfirelabs.com
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