Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #43167
From: Jack Tunnicliffe <jack@javapost.ca>
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: RED workflow
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:20:52 -0600
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
We do lots of Red projects and do colour correction in Davinci Resolve. It handles it very elegantly and playback is real time at 1/4 to 1/2 resolution and when you consider you are working with a 4 or 5K image, this looks just fine, even projected. I get realtime playback with Red at these settings with stereo audio and several nodes of correction. I've done two seasons of a television series with Red Mysterium that has 40 days of shooting and am just about to do a feature using Epic footage. In Davinci you can use the HDR frame for extra dynamic range when you need it in Resolve.

FCP does not play Red or work with Red natively. It needs a QT container. I don't do this part of it as we have assistant editors who set up the projects. I know it was a bit messy at first to match-back to Red from a ProRes edit of the dailies, but after a few tries they had all of this nailed. I can get you more information if desired on this part of the process but everyone is gone for the day, at this point.

Color works fairly well with Red footage but after real time in Resolve there's really no going back to Color and correcting on still frames. Also secondaries don't qualify properly on Red footage in Color. As this was implemented late in Color's life cycle it doesn't work as well as it should. When you try and qualify a green lawn for instance, Color can only qualify some of the pixels and seems to be looking at the raw file rather than looking at the image after the Red tab. In Davinci Resolve all qualifiers work the way they should.

We used Red Rocket to pull our dailies. The time difference is about 7X a standard CPU. We do all this on Mac Pros and not laptops. I do run Resolve on my MacBookPro but only to look at shots on location or at home and not to do real work. I think I'd be too frustrated by the speed difference. Probably still be faster than Color on a MacPro, though.

Best to run a Cuda card for Resolve to get real time performance. GTX 285's are really cheap and give even better performance than the Quadro 4000's for some reason with Resolve. We have both cards here and the 285's are faster for some reason. Of course the Cuda cards are now a real asset for AE CS6 if you are doing 3D.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
www.javapost.ca



On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

> I'm wondering what tools people are using with Red these days.
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> We recently did a project and decided to do all our Red color correction in our Smoke suite.
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> We ended up with a huge bottle neck so now I'm looking into alternatives that would allow use to use our Mac workstations to color correct or Red projects.
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> Does Resolve on the Mac work well with Red footage? How about FCP / Color?
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> Would it help workflow if we had Red Rocket in some of our boxes?
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> Any thoughts?
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> Thanks.
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> Phil
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> Phil Spitler
> www.bonfirelabs.com
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